Another car-bike crash

[Elysium]

Hopefuly this hasn't been posted yet.

The pics sure do show the force of the collision. I doubt the driver will get to keep his licence concidering his age. No doubt this thread will turn into another Katman & Co Vs the world debate.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4845...ly-through-air

A group of motorcycle riders were left stunned after witnessing a rider and his passenger thrown from a bike when it collided with a car in Upper Moutere yesterday.

The riders were on a recreational Sunday outing when they saw the accident about 2.30pm.

Motorcyclist Garry Ford, who was riding at the front of the group, saw the car pull out of Neudorf Rd on to the Moutere Highway, and the riders swerve to avoid it.

The two vehicles collided and the motorcyclists were thrown from their Triumph cruiser, landing about 10 metres away. "It was the worst thing I've ever seen," Mr Ford said.

Steve Robinson, riding just behind the injured pair, said the bike had hit the car so hard that the front of the car "exploded" in front of him.

"I went `Woah' – and it fell apart. There were bits everywhere. I looked up and the two people were flying through the air, about 15-20 feet [4-6m] high, like rag dolls.

"It was unreal really, to see."

He said it was a reminder to drivers to "be really aware" of motorcyclists. At intersections, drivers often looked directly at motorcyclists but still pulled out.

"They've seen you but it doesn't register ... it just means you have to be careful out there."

Fire and police attended the scene of the crash and cleared a space for the Summit Rescue Helicopter, which landed on the road and then flew the injured 52-year-old Nelson man to Nelson Hospital.

St John intensive care paramedics treated the riders at the scene. St John team leader Jon Leach said the man was in a serious but stable condition with chest injuries and "a fairly serious" break in his upper leg.

His 46-year-old woman pillion passenger was taken to hospital by ambulance, in a stable condition with moderate abdominal injuries. The man and the woman were in a stable condition in the intensive care ward at Nelson Hospital this morning.

The 90-year-old male driver of the car was also taken to hospital with minor injuries.

[JimO]

90 is a bit old to be driving

[Oblivion]

Hopefly this hasn't been posted yet.

The pics sure do show the force of the collision. I doubt the driver will get to keep his licence concidering his age. No doubt this this thread will turn into another Katman & Co Vs the world debate.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4845...ly-through-air

A group of motorcycle riders were left stunned after witnessing a rider and his passenger thrown from a bike when it collided with a car in Upper Moutere yesterday.

The riders were on a recreational Sunday outing when they saw the accident about 2.30pm.

Motorcyclist Garry Ford, who was riding at the front of the group, saw the car pull out of Neudorf Rd on to the Moutere Highway, and the riders swerve to avoid it.

The two vehicles collided and the motorcyclists were thrown from their Triumph cruiser, landing about 10 metres away. "It was the worst thing I've ever seen," Mr Ford said.

Steve Robinson, riding just behind the injured pair, said the bike had hit the car so hard that the front of the car "exploded" in front of him.

"I went `Woah' – and it fell apart. There were bits everywhere. I looked up and the two people were flying through the air, about 15-20 feet [4-6m] high, like rag dolls.

"It was unreal really, to see."

He said it was a reminder to drivers to "be really aware" of motorcyclists. At intersections, drivers often looked directly at motorcyclists but still pulled out.

"They've seen you but it doesn't register ... it just means you have to be careful out there."

Fire and police attended the scene of the crash and cleared a space for the Summit Rescue Helicopter, which landed on the road and then flew the injured 52-year-old Nelson man to Nelson Hospital.

St John intensive care paramedics treated the riders at the scene. St John team leader Jon Leach said the man was in a serious but stable condition with chest injuries and "a fairly serious" break in his upper leg.

His 46-year-old woman pillion passenger was taken to hospital by ambulance, in a stable condition with moderate abdominal injuries. The man and the woman were in a stable condition in the intensive care ward at Nelson Hospital this morning.

The 90-year-old male driver of the car was also taken to hospital with minor injuries.

First thought before anything else was ouch. I just hope hes okay. But after a collision like that, it might be a miracle if he has minor injuries.

[sil3nt]

There seriously needs to be an age limit for driving. Old people are a danger. I almost got taken out the other day when some old person decided to do a lane change in the middle of a roundabout for no reason (they could have exited fine from their lane).

They may drive more slowly and seem more cautious but they just don't look hard enough.

[Oblivion]

We have a roundabout right outside our house. Its absolutely shocking to see the state of driving by all ages. Elderly people don't look at all before going through, and the idiots with the ego extensions they call "cars" try to rip the handbrake while going round. I'm ashamed that they even built the bloody thing in the first place.

[MSTRS:Me]

There seriously needs to be an age limit for driving. Old people are a danger. I almost got taken out the other day when some old person decided to do a lane change in the middle of a roundabout for no reason (they could have exited fine from their lane).

They may drive more slowly and seem more cautious but they just don't look hard enough.

Advanced age is not a requirement for such driving practices...

I do hear what you are saying, but what age is too old? I know of 80 year olds who can drive rings round 40 year olds. Surely if an appropriate test is passed, then that driver is ok?

[Edbear]

Advanced age is not a requirement for such driving practices...

I do hear what you are saying, but what age is too old? I know of 80 year olds who can drive rings round 40 year olds. Surely if an appropriate test is passed, then that driver is ok?

Fully Agree!

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"Not seeing" one bike is bad enough, but when there is a group, it's a clear sign that the senile old cunt should'nt have been allowed on the road.

[monkeymcbean]

Advanced age is not a requirement for such driving practices...

I do hear what you are saying, but what age is too old? I know of 80 year olds who can drive rings round 40 year olds. Surely if an appropriate test is passed, then that driver is ok?

I don't think they have a appropriate test, if they don't let their licence lapse then they keep driving.
Just like I don't have to resit my test unless i've let the licence lapse.
I reckon everyone should have to resit your license every so often......eek i think ive stuck my neck out here!!!

[admenk]

There seriously needs to be an age limit for driving. Old people are a danger. I almost got taken out the other day when some old person decided to do a lane change in the middle of a roundabout for no reason (they could have exited fine from their lane).

They may drive more slowly and seem more cautious but they just don't look hard enough.

You may feel differently when you're that old and the car or bike is your means of independence.

[yachtie10]

Fully Agree!

I agree

but it probably depends on how close you are to the age

[Edbear]

I agree

but it probably depends on how close you are to the age

The closer I get the more I agree...

[scumdog]

"Not seeing" one bike is bad enough, but when there is a group, it's a clear sign that the senile old cunt should'nt have been allowed on the road.

Maybe that bike was the only one they didn't see?

Doesn't have to be 90 years old to make that mistake.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Maybe that bike was the only one they didn't see?

Doesn't have to be 90 years old to make that mistake.

A group of bikes all (now legally have to have there head lights on) in a group can easily hide a bike with the extra light glare it can create... (especially if the bikes were on hi beam ... to those that always ride on hi beam) with out the biker knowing he is hidden with in the group even though he is the lead bike...

Thats one reason I am a against forced lights bikes and now on and cars with day driving lights...

[Str8 Jacket]

State of mind is not an age thing, it is an individual thing. My grandparents (who have since passed) travelled NZ from Cape Reinga to Invercargill in their 80's, they stayed at YHA youth hostels the way there and home with not a worry, they ran their own antique shop until their mid eighties, having to close it when grans hip need replacing.

Grandad used to play violins in rest homes till his late eighties, he used to drive there no worries. Grandad died in his mid 90's he was sharp as a button right up till then, his body gave up on him.

Let's all see how we feel about this when we are "older".....