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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Would we bollocks. Motorcycling is full of individuals and they aren't going to follow some leader like sheep - look at the low number of members for the various organisations. Didn't Gareth Morgan stand up ? Ho ho.

    I also disagree with the point about evil forces working against us. ACC is up because we are an expensive road user. I haven't seen anything else that indicates they are trying to remove us from the roads.

    The media are on no side. There are no good news stories regarding motorbikes, "ooh, look, a toy run" doesn't hack it anymore. And the media only deal in shit, which we, as a user group, are happy to provide them.
    I still recon we are waiting for someone to stand up and show us the light. Perhaps if we could get a group of motorcycle riders to start an organisation that could chrystalise what we all are wanting and saying, then we could all support them and we would be seen as one group. We could all ride together and have a flag up front, we could stop in parks and have meetings where someone of the leaders would hold an enlightening speech. Then we could end up on the backpage of the local free paper and we would be on the way to save the world!

    May the bridges I burn light the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    I still recon we are waiting for someone to stand up and show us the light. Perhaps if we could get a group of motorcycle riders to start an organisation that could chrystalise what we all are wanting and saying, then we could all support them and we would be seen as one group. We could all ride together and have a flag up front, we could stop in parks and have meetings where someone of the leaders would hold an enlightening speech. Then we could end up on the backpage of the local free paper and we would be on the way to save the world!
    Been done...its called 'The Big Gay Out'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Been done...its called 'The Big Gay Out'.
    Yes, but this one would be different. The group would ceverly use words from the biker world in their name. They would do things differently, have monthly meetings, discuss issues, do news releases, and show all the others how it should be done! They could even have small sew on badges that all the supporters could sew on. Can you imagine the discussions those would create around the campfire?

    Someone should really do this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    Yes, but this one would be different. The group would ceverly use words from the biker world in their name. They would do things differently, have monthly meetings, discuss issues, do news releases, and show all the others how it should be done! They could even have small sew on badges that all the supporters could sew on. Can you imagine the discussions those would create around the campfire?

    Someone should really do this!
    Nice enough concept but there is a flaw...
    Who has the right to dictate to any other how they should conduct themselves on the road? other than the Law Enforement Officers.

    PS: dont forget the marshmellows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Nice enough concept but there is a flaw...
    Who has the right to dictate to any other how they should conduct themselves on the road? other than the Law Enforement Officers.

    PS: dont forget the marshmellows.
    But see, it would be no directing. It would be enlightening us all, get us to see the light, make us all fall in line of our own free will. I am sure we all just waiting for someone to stand up and to get us to conform! A weight of responsibility would fall of our shoulders. And yes, the marshmellows would be a nice touch. Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    But see, it would be no directing. It would be enlightening us all, get us to see the light, make us all fall in line of our own free will. I am sure we all just waiting for someone to stand up and to get us to conform! A weight of responsibility would fall of our shoulders. And yes, the marshmellows would be a nice touch. Thanks!!
    Up until recently I was apart of a group where 12 people could even agree on one question/issue/request whatever, how on earth do you foresee approx 100,000 in agreement with 'Group Idol'...100,00 being the approximate registered bike owner of NZ.
    Anyway, nice day, no work today, Im off to see TOTO in Auckland....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony W View Post
    The score is now 1-1.
    Interesting that the only two to tangle with them so far, on both sides of the equation, were riding like dick heads. So if you're not riding like a twat (pulling wheelies, or pissed as), WRB aren't a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Up until recently I was apart of a group where 12 people could even agree on one question/issue/request whatever, how on earth do you foresee approx 100,000 in agreement with 'Group Idol'...100,00 being the approximate registered bike owner of NZ.
    THAT is what the Messiah is for!! If only someone would step up to the task!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    THAT is what the Messiah is for!! If only someone would step up to the task!
    I think his name is Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony W View Post
    ... one is deluded into believing that one's fantasy is reality.
    ...
    Aint that the truth...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony W View Post
    You shouldn't really give people personal abuse. It shows lack of confidence in your own viewpoint, and lack of tolerance for others' views.
    Fuck, you're on a roll...

    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Motorcycling IS dangerous ... but it is not the roads that make motorcycling "unsafe" .. it's the users of those roads that make it so ....
    And sometimes those users are other motorcyclists. Interesting that you chose the word 'user'.

    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    .
    Seriously ... WRB's are NOT just in the preserve of the north .... We have them down here, and I'm pretty sure ... from memory ... they ARE in the Hawkes Bay area. .
    No. Not yet, at least. But we do have those horrible new steel poles on Armco.

    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Power poles keep the power cables off the ground ... out of our way ... (most of the time)

    Fences keep stock off the raod ... (most of the time)

    WRB's keep traffic on the road/in their lane ... (most of the time )

    ergo ... all are safety devices ...
    Sorry, but that's a strange way of looking at power poles and fences. Their primary function is not for road users' safety. Unlike barriers of any sort. They are there for one function only...safety. Apparently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony W View Post
    What appalling language.
    I think you are getting a little upset and off topic
    This is fantastic !
    You are now exposing yourself for other people to judge.
    If you snap, I win.
    Another few gems, right from the horse's mouth.

    Winners and losers is where it's at for this poster. IE - he's a winner, and everyone else is a loser. Which brings us back to his first quoted post above...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    have to state the obvious, but if the WRB wasn't there, what would he have hit to make him fall off?
    Trees, wheelie bins, cars, dogs, cats, diesel, road cones, gravel, bits of car, bits of rubbish, people........

    Shit happens. Its not like the WRB jumped out to get him. Last time I checked they don't move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblivion View Post
    So your saying that IF a motoryclist lowslides and crosses the centreline, where there is no cheese graters, The car driver WILL run him over.

    He is just assuming that all car drivers are stupid and not aware enough to look at oncoming traffic.

    If a car driver runs over a motorcyclist wherein he has a distance of over 100m to stop, then he should not be on the road.(M/C is stationary). Road safety is looking out after others as well as taking your own safety into account as well.

    Just because he didn't go over the centreline and into a potentially dangerous situation doesn't mean that the barriers did there job. One person is seriously injured in an incident that could have been minor, IF THERE WAS AMPLE RESPONSE FROM ALL PARTIES ON THE MOTORWAY. When there is no barriers.
    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa
    Responsible road users
    bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    I think I am going to cry that is so funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Interesting that the only two to tangle with them so far, on both sides of the equation, were riding like dick heads.
    Certainly not what I heard about the first one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    Perhaps if we could get a group of motorcycle riders to start an organisation that could chrystalise what we all are wanting and saying, then we could all support them and we would be seen as one group.
    We can't even decide whether hi-viz wearing ATGATT riders should be burnt, shot or simply beheaded, there is no chance of a consensus on anything serious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony W View Post
    The score is now 1-1.
    Not quite, there have been more than two bike vs wire rope barrier crashes in NZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Not quite, there have been more than two bike vs wire rope barrier crashes in NZ.
    And no doubt dozens of bike vs concrete barrier crashes.

    And y'know, I can't recall a fatality...

    Holy shit, mebe we're onto something!
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