Cheeecutter saves motorcyclist's life - 2 April 2011

[bogan]

What's this MAG-NZ thing? Some sort of club?

heres the latest news about us http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ghlight=mag-nz or for the official page

[schrodingers cat]

Just wondering, when you are engaged in the political process to force change and you encounter robust disagreement do you resort to name calling?

All the best.

I'd be interested to see a poll with 3 options

WRB Gone
WRB Stay
I don't give a shit

Conside #3 as status quo

[bogan]

Just wondering, when you are engaged in the political process to force change and you encounter robust disagreement do you resort to name calling?

All the best

Of course not, why would you even ask that?

[Smifffy]

I don't think that WRB are the best type of barrier, but unfortunately neither do I think that NZ roads are the best type of road. Cheap and nasty is what we have, and most likely what we will continue to get.

I expect that materials and procedures used will only get cheaper and nastier, whilst also becoming more expensive.

The only debate that I have seen lately around WRBs has been initiated by the OP.

[swbarnett]

Motorcycling is optional.

So is EVERYTHING in life. Even life itself.

It is a hobby, an indulgence.

Hobby, passion and 24x7, 365days a year transport, rain, hail or shine.

We are all (99.9%) car/vehicle drivers.

I think you will find that percentage is rather high.

We are a pimple, a minority, a thorn in roading society.

If a biker thinks like this it's no wonder our image is not what it could be.

Special conditions for a motley few, are a self-centred fantasy.

Not special, but reasonable conditions for a legal mode of transport and a valid life choice. Next you'll be saying cyclists don't deserve cycle lanes.

Motorcycling is NOT the real world.
Let's get real.

You ignorant, self centred bastard!

What is the REAL world then? Ask a million people that question and you'll get a million different answers. Stop assuming your answer applies to everyone else. EVERY way of life is valid as long as it respects the right of others to theirs.

Just becuase you view your motorcycle as a frivolous play thing does not mean the rest of us do.

[monkeymcbean]

I don't think that WRB are the best type of barrier, but unfortunately neither do I think that NZ roads are the best type of road. Cheap and nasty is what we have, and most likely what we will continue to get.

I expect that materials and procedures used will only get cheaper and nastier, whilst also becoming more expensive.

The only debate that I have seen lately around WRBs has been initiated by the OP.

Been riding on some lovely 'hot mix' they have replaced the chip with, on the 'Crown Range' road yesterday.....smoooothhh
They also put armco up instead of the WRB....much less of a eye sore.

But there is a fair bit of use of WRB on our roads where I ride down here to unfortunately, I don't like it, but I would not mind it if was installed as originally specified with a 6 metre no mans land gap between it and the road user.

[swbarnett]

Motorcycling is dangerous.

What a load of crap!

As my sig. says:
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!"

I accept this as a fact.

Then you are deluded. Properly treated motorcycling is no more dangerous than car driving. Yes, you will get hurt more if you hit something but the risk of hitting that something to an experienced, respectfull rider is no different.

Motorcyclists that are intimidated by our roads should sell their bikes and stop bleating, especially at those of us that ride confidently in all conditions.

Let's say that overnight a hundred pot-holes appeared outside your house. The 4WD set have no problem but it makes riding out of your driveway impossible. Would you sell the bike if the council refused to fill them in?

It's just a case of mind over matter.

Yes, I see that - You don't mind and, in your eyes, we don't matter.

[Mom]

Just wondering, when you are engaged in the political process to force change and you encounter robust disagreement do you resort to name calling?

Just for the record, and to get things really clear, I have not seen anyone representing MAG-NZ call anyone names on this thread.

I have said that the way one member posts makes him look like a dick, but then I can say that. I do not represent MAG-NZ.

I will robustly debate what I believe in with anyone, I no longer am hampered by a "group". I will say what I want, when I want.

[Tony W]

Stupid is not something I own, but if you want, it does not offend me. Slut is short for? Susan? Sylvia? Not sure. Also no offense taken, but you are cruising close to my, go fuck yourself tolerance. You are on notice now

I think you are getting a little upset and off topic
This is fantastic !
You are now exposing yourself for other peole to judge.
If you snap, I win.

[swbarnett]

Commuting is seldom fun (for long) ... regardless of what you use ...

I've been commuting this stint for 4 years now and I still love it over a car. Puts a smile on my face before work gets in to try and wipe it off.

[Tony W]

Stupid is not something I own, but if you want, it does not offend me. Slut is short for? Susan? Sylvia? Not sure. Also no offense taken, but you are cruising close to my, go fuck yourself tolerance. You are on notice now

What appalling language.
I think you are getting a little upset and off topic
This is fantastic !
You are now exposing yourself for other people to judge.
If you snap, I win.

[Oblivion]

What appalling language.
I think you are getting a little upset and off topic
This is fantastic !
You are now exposing yourself for other people to judge.
If you snap, I win.

Well, if you toned down your arrogance by I don't know... alot, There would be no need for such language.

You are making seem like you are some almighty overlord. Don't let your ego get the better of you.

[Tony W]

You ignorant, self centred bastard!


Just becuase you view your motorcycle as a frivolous play thing does not mean the rest of us do.

The "rest" are so tied up in their fantasy, that they cannot objectively look at themselves. Motorcycles ARE a play thing, we ride for enjoyment. Your type are basically as normal as Train-spotters.

[Tony W]

Well, if you toned down your arrogance by I don't know... alot, There would be no need for such language.

You are making seem like you are some almighty overlord. Don't let your ego get the better of you.

Not as pompous as crusaders who think they speak for all of us.

[Tony W]

I will say what I want, when I want.

Gosh, someone should.....no offence...... tell you to STFU