Another car-bike crash

[HenryDorsetCase]

There seriously needs to be an age limit for driving. Old people are a danger. I almost got taken out the other day when some old person decided to do a lane change in the middle of a roundabout for no reason (they could have exited fine from their lane).

They may drive more slowly and seem more cautious but they just don't look hard enough.

not even that: their vision might be poor, they might have restricted neck movement, meaning they can't swivel their head to look, they likely have fucked hearing, and often the smugness of "Ive been driving 50 (60, 70) yearrs and never had an accident"

When I rule you all (and I will) every driver will be re-tested every five years, to a much more rigorous standard than at present, and anyone over 70 will be tested annually.

Luckily they're usually fairly easy to spot (hats. rugs or hankie boxes on the back parcel shelf, sheepskin seat covers or (allah forbid) a sheepskin steering wheel cover, indecisive driving, slow driving etc. etc.

Doesnt help the poor bastards in hospo though, does it.?

[SPman]

Drivers have to pass a medical - I think it's over 70 and have to pass a driving test every 2 yrs?, or every year, over 80, don't they?

[yachtie10]

Drivers have to pass a medical - I think it's over 70 and have to pass a driving test every 2 yrs?, or every year, over 80, don't they?

far as im aware that was removed by the labour gov
dont know what it is currently

[MSTRS:Me]

http://nzta.govt.nz/licence/renewing...g/over-75.html

[yachtie10]

http://nzta.govt.nz/licence/renewing...ng/over-75.htm

beat me to it

[sil3nt]

http://nzta.govt.nz/licence/renewing...ng/over-75.htm

missing the l on the end of html

[MSTRS:Me]

Good spotting - fixed

[Ronin]

I have a real problem with the media publishing the pictures with the plate visible. They withhold the name while people are notified but then identify them with that.

[DR650gary]

Travelling through Otaki today on my son's DR200SE, lucky me, a ACMNZ van driven by a mid aged woman looked straight at me then pulled out of her park into the roadway. There was no way of stopping so did the big "Push Pull" and went into the emergency centre and around her. Blared the horn and swore loudly through the helmet and copped a gob full of abuse and the usual "make friends with me" hand signals. I was now in front and unable to get her reg or I would have reported it to the Police, (for fuckall action) but did clock the firm so rang the company this afternoon when I got home. To their credit, they did take note and promised that action will be taken.

I doubt that much will change and I do drive to survive on 2 or 4 wheels but severe evasive action should not be necessary in a shopping precinct. I do not accept that it is "idiot blindness" all the time. I felt that she saw me and thought "fuck you, I'm bigger".

May be wrong but who knows.

[Str8 Jacket]

I do not accept that it is "idiot blindness" all the time. I felt that she saw me and thought "fuck you, I'm bigger".

May be wrong but who knows.

Yep, I have had it happen often. Especially as I commute on a poxy lil 150. Whoever say's size doesn't matter is wrong!

[steelphoenix]

Hope the rider and pillion recover swiftly and completely. Best wishes.

I agree that everyone, not just elderly drivers, need to be more frequently tested - and that better awareness needs to be drummed into people from the get-go. How to achieve this without everyone going up in arms, I have no clue...

Ride safe, everyone.

[Mungatoke Mad]

Maybe that bike was the only one they didn't see?

Doesn't have to be 90 years old to make that mistake.

Check out the German Crash proof motorbike on you tube

[baptist]

... rugs or hankie boxes on the back parcel shelf, sheepskin seat covers or (allah forbid) a sheepskin steering wheel cover, indecisive driving, slow driving etc. etc....

Could be an Indian Taxi Driver as well, not sure of the difference in driving standard between the two ...

...I doubt that much will change and I do drive to survive on 2 or 4 wheels but severe evasive action should not be necessary in a shopping precinct. I do not accept that it is "idiot blindness" all the time. I felt that she saw me and thought "fuck you, I'm bigger".

May be wrong but who knows.

I think you are right, Bus drivers around my way seem to be trained in thinking big is best...bikers are mere speed bumps to be driven over...

I feel that age can be a factor in poor driving, testing at 75 and then every few years after may be of benefit, but lets not forget that while a 90 year old has caused this prang many others are caused by teenagers and people in their 20's etc etc. May be every person who causes an accident should be re tested? My fear is younger people (guys and girls), with bullet proof hides in crappy Nissans etc who feel that putting a dumb arse exhaust on a car and cutting the springs to lower it makes them look cool and the car handle better..., rant over.

[Brian d marge]

not even that: their vision might be poor, they might have restricted neck movement, meaning they can't swivel their head to look, they likely have fucked hearing, and often the smugness of "Ive been driving 50 (60, 70) yearrs and never had an accident"

When I rule you all (and I will) every driver will be re-tested every five years, to a much more rigorous standard than at present, and anyone over 70 will be tested annually.

Luckily they're usually fairly easy to spot (hats. rugs or hankie boxes on the back parcel shelf, sheepskin seat covers or (allah forbid) a sheepskin steering wheel cover, indecisive driving, slow driving etc. etc.

Doesnt help the poor bastards in hospo though, does it.?

and I for one would be crawling past that car , I also note that the motorcyclist were also in there late ,,eer teens, Im smelling 80 /20 here ...( note I would never wish an accident on my worst enemy, not even my wife, its a horrible hurty thing that really should be avoided , hope those two heal up and return to bikes )

On a side note my grandfather , who is still with us , and now is 93 was at 87 a better driver than I am ( don't go there !!!)

Good road craft , safe, but if called upon to get you to the airport quickly and safely ( and feeling safe in the pasanger seat ) , He da man!!!

Now my father 64 on the other hand, is a lazy driver ( drove many many km as part of his job )
HE needs a yellow flashing light on top to warn others, Inattentive , doesn't read road conditions, been there done that ..... you know the sort ...

you don't need to ban older people , just ....

Learn how to drive/ride and forget the Im number one , im da man attitude which may have been ok back when they were draining the swaps for Christchurch , or building benmore, but this is the 21st century , times have changed ...

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

pps

If you treat all care as "pullers outers " and give them no avenue to do so , you stress reduces a lot

eg; a car will pull out on a motorcycle, but it wont pull out on a truck ( normally speaking , trains, not included as cars drivers haven't worked those ones out yet )

soo going through an intersection , follow behind a car ( closely and out of its wheel tracks just in case )

If you cant go through the intersection at a speed which you can stop or in a position that you can not be reached ,,,,,,unless its a rocket car , primed and waiting for action )

works for me , No stress here , no OMG I DIDNT C U ..... all good


Stephen