Originally Posted by MSTRS
Feb 22 changed everything. We now are in a position where Govt wants every dollar they are entitled to off us. Wait until IRD starts clamping down.
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Feb 22 changed everything. We now are in a position where Govt wants every dollar they are entitled to off us. Wait until IRD starts clamping down.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
Watchful Old Bird
and not forgetting that 'the bill' is not evenly shared by all who benefit. The artificial distortion based on cc rating means if we as motorcyclists pay - we are paying 'our share' and then some.
The instructions are simple...
On licences doesn't work, for the same reason that multiple vehicles are cited as unfair. You drive/ride 6 days a week, 52 weeks of the year and do 35,000kms. I drive/ride 2 days a week, 52 weeks of the year and do 9,000 kms. Do the math.
Who says just petrol? I'm talking ALL fuels.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
on the up
My bad. For petrol, read all fuel.
FWIW, it's my preferred option. Although I can imagine companies like Mainfreight raising a right royal stink about it.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
Watchful Old Bird
But we all only have one body to hold a licence and get injured.
If distance is included your talking risk rating which is an even bigger can of worms.
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I am working on that, so far I've changed the way my bill is divided up by not regoing a vehicle, this is now much more fair as I pay a similar amount to others (though still too much as I'm in the 'high risk' 647cc bracket), rather than twice what they pay.
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
The instructions are simple...
So what are these 'alternative' fuels you mention? Any form of pump-measured fuel is a source of possible ACC levy.
Electric cars? Can't see them being much of a problem in the scheme of things.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
The instructions are simple...
Currently, people are upset about having to pay a levy on EVERY vehicle. We can only use one at a time and resent having to pay just to have the potential use of a vehicle.
If the levy was shifted to licences, those that do very little driving would resent paying the same as those that drive heaps. N'est pas?
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Rider in training
That's like saying why is it fair that everyone else has to pay for the bikes/vehicles you choose not to register.
Whenever people have to pay money for a service they can't directly use (such as accident cover - unless you have an accident) they often consider it unfair. Hell, we don't like money being forcibly taken out of our pockets when we don't think we are getting anything for it, or at least not getting value for that money.
Lots of people don't think it is fair they have to pay tax - but just because you personally don't think what you have to pay is fair doesn't make it right that everyone else has to cover your share.
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exactly, it's a very complex issue, the only way to be 'fair' (for the individual) would see massive overheads involved with evaluating everyones risk factor and charging accordingly. Seems far easier, cheaper, and fairer for society, to just have a flat rate on everyones license.
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
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My point is that currently in legislation they must mention the levy for each particular fuel. I'm simply pointing out the potential of a loophole.
Trust me, if I knew of an alternate fuel source that cost $0.30/litre and worked as well, I'd be using it now.
Doesn't mean there isn't some clever bugger in a Skyline working on it right now. This is New Zealand after all.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
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put it this way, i have one bike i use daily, and pay $500pa, i then buy another cos i like a bit of change which i use on alternate days. Now with two bikes I am at the same level of 'risk' and i get the same level of cover. If i pay an extra $500 for the second, who's share does it go on?
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Until more hydro dams and Cook Strait cable (or 2, or 3) are required...
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Pontificate all you want about what system would be fair or not. The system we have isn't going to be swapped for another, coz it cost lots to set up and gathers lots of dosh.
None of our pollies have the gumption to admit that the system is wrong.
No, on second thought, the ones who will say it's wrong are normally the opposition party. When they are in power they just roll over and keep the gravy train running.
The instructions are simple...
Who says he is using a vehicle whilst it is unrego'd?
If a vehicle is not being used, how is it fair to charge a levy on it, a levy which is designed to cover the risk it poses whilst being used?
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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