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    Quote Originally Posted by red mermaid View Post
    I love it when people who dont do my job know more about it than me.
    You still talking about gummies ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    You still talking about gummies ?
    Prolly.
    You have heard the term "I don't blow, Occifer, I only suck"?
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    There is no effective way to check this on the roadside,short of the cop driving the vehicle.This would not happen due to liability issues.
    Yes there is, down south the cop takes a reading then gets you to drive down the road and back again

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaykay View Post
    Another vote for putting ACC levies onto fuel, it isn't ideal but it is fairer and a lot better than the present mess... I'm sure overseas visitors would really like that.
    This would beg the question "would overseas visitors then be covered by our ACC?".
    If they are paying the ACC levy through fuel, they would not require personal insurance while travelling here. Yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    This would beg the question "would overseas visitors then be covered by our ACC?".
    If they are paying the ACC levy through fuel, they would not require personal insurance while travelling here. Yes?
    They do for sickness, but not accident. We pay that for them...
    Always thought it unfair.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    They do for sickness, but not accident. We pay that for them...
    Always thought it unfair.
    There is a justification for the ACC coverage of visiting foreign nationals, it makes the insurance cost for visiting NZ a lot cheaper and encourages much more tourist spending in regards to coming to NZ, one of the most expensive destination to reach due to distances, limited air services etc...........

    I dont mind this myself.
    Not as much as I mind paying more than anyone else to ride our second, third or fourth bike............

    My personal take on this issue, only as an individual NOT as BRONZ or any other hat I wear;

    MOST of the levy raised on fuel accross all vehicle types
    Risk specific calculation based on one motorcyle per owner (or 4wd, deisel vehicle etc)
    Multi bike owners:Second, third, fourth bikes copping the paltry reg fee, and the MSL portion of the levy (a mere 30$ per bike so that fund grows as opposed to shrinks from 'hold' rego's)

    That would be fair,and more equitable, and allow US via MSL to use the money for ourselves as intended.

    No one is going to have a perfect system, the woodhouse principle is never going to be fully re-instated again, and we need to find a way to move into the future....but the way it is right now, 520 odd bucks per bike is ridiculous, and has forced me to have to sell my Ducati, and consider selling the KTM as well.......
    Just ride.

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    Ok

    Noises are being made in regards protest action, and I for one am 100% ready to get involved and bring all resources possible to bear on this issue

    As far as I am concerened, with the car, the 3 bikes I have, the bike my fiance has, we pay enough to justify being able to park the vehicles that we are not actually using

    Who else feels it is time for afirmative action?
    Just ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
    Ok

    Noises are being made in regards protest action, and I for one am 100% ready to get involved and bring all resources possible to bear on this issue

    As far as I am concerened, with the car, the 3 bikes I have, the bike my fiance has, we pay enough to justify being able to park the vehicles that we are not actually using

    Who else feels it is time for afirmative action?
    We have something in the works and we will need many people on bikes dates and locations/routes still to be confirmed.
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    How about getting cars involved as well. This isn't just a bike issue.

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    What's the AA's stance? Much as we don't like their attitude to us, this affects every single member, and they are a powerful lobby group.
    Greypower?
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
    Ok

    Noises are being made in regards protest action, and I for one am 100% ready to get involved and bring all resources possible to bear on this issue

    As far as I am concerened, with the car, the 3 bikes I have, the bike my fiance has, we pay enough to justify being able to park the vehicles that we are not actually using

    Who else feels it is time for afirmative action?
    Count me in

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    What are we protesting this time? Is it;
    1/ the reduction in the fine? Not f'ing likely
    2/ the use of demerit points for a non-safety issue (failure to pay tax)?
    3/ the risk of losing your license through operating an unregistered vehicle?
    4/ having to pay multiple, over the top registrations when you own more than one vehicle?
    5/ the lack of a transferable registration system whereby you pay one registration fee that you can then transfer to which ever of the vehicles you own that you wish to use?
    6/ The ACC levy again?
    7/ something else?

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    6 out 7 , a pretty good score there.

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    Why not just tell them to stick their rego up their arse? If a group of 2-300 people did this and it got in the media, things could go really bad for them.

    No joke! We might just start off a huge wave of civil disobedience.

    The reality is, there will be FAR more people than 2-300 ALREADY with their rego on hold - we just have to get them together (anonymously) in a group and say so loudly and publicly.
    "I am a licenced motorcycle instructor, I agree with dangerousbastard, no point in repeating what he said."
    "read what Steve says. He's right."
    "What Steve said pretty much summed it up."
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    "Wow, Great advise there DB."
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