Demerit points hiked for unlicensed vehicles

[oneofsix]

Symbolic black ribbon over the plate, mourning the death of the freedom of transport choice.

Not a protest ride at all - it's a funeral procession.

I like that idea, its symbolism is good

[CookMySock]

I like that idea, its symbolism is good

In the end its a weak kneed action. Hit them in the pocket for a cool $1 million and get lots of already-angry people and incite them to follow. That'll make their coffee come out their nose, if they don't like it they can read my finger.

[CookMySock]

the govt are not going to introduce any scheme which gathers them less revenue.

oh yes they are

[Bald Eagle]

oh yes they did

There fixed it for you

[Max Preload]

If you really want some action you have to stop being such compliant bitches for a start. Bleating and then crumbling anyway achieves nothing except to demonstrate that you're all piss and wind.

[MrKiwi]

What's the AA's stance? Much as we don't like their attitude to us, this affects every single member, and they are a powerful lobby group.
Greypower?

Good question.

I'm advised that the AA has not discussed it at length so doesn't have a formal policy. Having said that, my understanding of the AA's position on this is that it extends a precedent set a few years back when demerits were added to GDLS and other offences (you could argue GDLS is safety related but not L plate or number plate offences or noisy exhausts which now attract 25 demerits). The AA supported GDLS demerits as being more effective than fines to encourage compliance.

While the AA has not made any public comment on this issue (that I am aware of), I would think it would consider a similar principle applies here. Given that they have already supported the principle for cars it is unlikely the AA would come to a different position for motorbikes.

Personally I am in two minds about this. I would prefer to see demerit points used solely for safety related offences but this argument was lost several years ago when officials and relevant Ministers got concerned at the ineffective message fines were becoming. I blame the boy racers - it was in response to them that started this trend...

[KapitiBoys]

Why don't they just put the fee on your licence (if you look at the ACC content as an insurance policy which it is) that way you don't pay lots of cash for the same policy ,it is unfair to have to pay for 4 when you can only claim on one.

[BMWST?]

Why don't they just put the fee on your licence (if you look at the ACC content as an insurance policy which it is) that way you don't pay lots of cash for the same policy ,it is unfair to have to pay for 4 when you can only claim on one.

you do realise that the one fee will increase again..there is a fixed number of motorcycle license holders so the acc levy will be divided by the number of license holders instead of double or triple that number of motorcycles.You ready for that?

[miloking]

If you really want some action you have to stop being such compliant bitches for a start. Bleating and then crumbling anyway achieves nothing except to demonstrate that you're all piss and wind.

While i totaly agree, i must admit "bleating" is at least good start if it eventualy leads to some action...

...and million times better than the brainwashed part of society that will just say "government only wants the best for everybody so we better comply and pay our share...otherwise we are bludgers"

Anyway, so what are we doing no rego plates or ribbons? (hopefuly thick ribbon to cover some digits )

[MSTRS:Me]

you do realise that the one fee will increase again..there is a fixed number of motorcycle license holders so the acc levy will be divided by the number of license holders instead of double or triple that number of motorcycles.You ready for that?

The other problem with licence-based is which class do they levy? The most 'risky' is the logical one, but TPTB aren't necessarily famous for their logic. And if the most 'risky' class is one you have to hold for work, does your employer pay? Why would they want to cover your private motoring?

[Swoop]

Anyway, so what are we doing no rego plates or ribbons? (hopefuly thick ribbon to cover some digits )

A very wide ribbon that totally obscures the plate would be sensible. "We" are still keeping the plate on the bike, but making a statement of protest. Perhaps a black armband as well, to emphasise the point?

[BMWST?]

A very wide ribbon that totally obscures the plate would be sensible. "We" are still keeping the plate on the bike, but making a statement of protest. Perhaps a black armband as well, to emphasise the point?

black armbands would NOT work so well for most(already wearing black)
Why the fuss with plates.rego not required for insurance,just a wof.so all you have to do is still have the wof????

[CookMySock]

If you really want some action you have to stop being such compliant bitches for a start. Bleating and then crumbling anyway achieves nothing except to demonstrate that you're all piss and wind.

This guy gets it.

Hit them in the pocket. Hard.

[sportsbikesrock]

Demerits won't stop the re-offenders who don't give a toss and keep buying hundred dollar bombs off tard me each time the old one gets impounded. They don't have money and obviously will not pay anyway and so it won't stop the problem. How is this helping anything?

All it really does is screw everyone else who is struggling to get by and would pay if they could, but have to wait for two weeks pay to pay for the expensive bullshit.

The beehive reminds me of a monkey enclosure at a zoo, if it wasn't so serious it would make for great entertainment.....
My 2c, rant over.....

[Ocean1]

Symbolic black ribbon over the plate, mourning the death of the freedom of transport choice.

Not to mention the loss of freedom denoted by the introduction of plate recognition systems.


I may never wash my registration plate again.