Surrendering your plate when putting rego on hold

**RE5Guy** · 7th April 2011, 11:48

In yesterday's announcement the bit that got me going is about having to surrender your plates if you wanted to put your registration on hold. I now regularly do this because I can't ride my 7 bikes at the same time - but don't start me on ACC levies.....

Ok I went and checked out the new regulations. They actually say

"The Registrar may require the registered person, or the person acting on the registered person’s behalf, to surrender the registration plate or plates of the motor vehicle for the duration of the exemption".

I guess the key word is "may", which is a lot better than "will".

However no indication is given as to when they "may" do this. I guess the inference is that if you get caught, or if your history of exempting your vehicle/s indicates you may be rorting the system, then they will require you to hand over your plates.

Then further

"If the registration plate or plates are surrendered, the Registrar must, on expiry of the exemption, return the surrendered plate or plates or, where that is not reasonably practicable, a duplicate plate or plates".

So if you treasure your old black and silver plates, they may not be what you get back.

For the full info go to

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regul...LM2938344.html

cheers

Tony

**onearmedbandit** · 7th April 2011, 12:09

Could you say you lost your original plate (eg fell off the bike during a ride) and request a replacement in white? Then if they do have to re-issue after being on hold (assuming they give you the 'same' plate back) you could still use your old black plate?

**avgas** · 7th April 2011, 12:14

Who will they send the bill too if I have no plate on my bike.......sounds like a perfect excuse not to stop.

**tigertim20** · 7th April 2011, 12:22

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Could you say you lost your original plate (eg fell off the bike during a ride) and request a replacement in white? Then if they do have to re-issue after being on hold (assuming they give you the 'same' plate back) you could still use your old black plate?

When they 're-issue' the plate will be different. people will ask questions on reslae about why its plate changed, usually assuming the worst.(written off and repaired)

Funny thing is, what abput personal plates? I understand if you get a personalised plate, you OWN the plate. be fucked if Im handing in an $800 plate to any cunt.

**Morcs** · 7th April 2011, 12:33

Originally Posted by tigertim20

When they 're-issue' the plate will be different. people will ask questions on reslae about why its plate changed, usually assuming the worst.(written off and repaired)

Funny thing is, what abput personal plates? I understand if you get a personalised plate, you OWN the plate. be fucked if Im handing in an $800 plate to any cunt.

You dont own the plate.

The own the right to the plate.
if you give them your plate, you dont lose squat. the plate isnt worth the money. You can still get one.

**MSTRS:Me** · 7th April 2011, 12:35

Originally Posted by avgas

Who will they send the bill too if I have no plate on my bike.......sounds like a perfect excuse not to stop.

Originally Posted by tigertim20

When they 're-issue' the plate will be different. people will ask questions on reslae about why its plate changed, usually assuming the worst.(written off and repaired)

Funny thing is, what abput personal plates? I understand if you get a personalised plate, you OWN the plate. be fucked if Im handing in an $800 plate to any cunt.

Bingo!! To all of these.
It's a stupid idea.

**sil3nt** · 7th April 2011, 12:37

I do everything online. Do i email them my plate?

**avgas** · 7th April 2011, 12:44

Originally Posted by sil3nt

I do everything online. Do i email them my plate?

yep.

it might break the fax machine.

**davereid** · 7th April 2011, 14:21

No problem.

The new legislation allows for you to lose your plate and get a replacement with exactly the same number

So this is not likely to be a very big issue.

**davereid** · 7th April 2011, 14:32

Hmm while reading the legislation I noticed two interesting things...

1.. allowance for adhesive plates in there. This may be the motorcycle front number plate thing again being allowed for

2.. a moped is distinctly listed as not being a motorcycle. So why do I pay the motorcycle safety levy on it ?

email to NZTA on its way..

**Reckless** · 7th April 2011, 14:56

My guess is that this won't be a general requirement but they are leaving the door open to grab the plates off those that try and screw them over!!

Get a ticket (incl parking tickets) or caught on the road on the "on hold plate", you go on a list and you have to start handing it in!!

Well that would be the common sense theory who the hell knows what will actually happen???
Anyway just my take on why its worded MAY??

**admenk** · 7th April 2011, 16:08

Originally Posted by Reckless

Well that would be the common sense theory

When did our leaders start using that?

**Ratti** · 4th May 2011, 20:26

We were discussing it a a meeting last night and one of the members had made an enquiry to VTNZ about this. the response was, that they were not interested in grabbing plates as there was no indication that there is a sensible system in place for storing and re-issuing the wretched things. Basically they are not interested cos it would be a pain in THEIR butt to do this.

Im not worrying about it, I have three bikes on hold and dont know where the plates are anyway.If someone wants to troll through the boxes in the shed, they will be there somewhere...good luck

**FJRider** · 4th May 2011, 20:36

The new regulations give the policy makers options for the future ... I dont see any issues of concern ... YET ... !!!

Copies are NOT made of "OLD" plates ... they are simply "replaced" by new plates ... the only way to ensure (guarantee) your black plates remain legal at this time ...is to keep them/it in use/current ... unless they change the rules ... again ...