RIP Fishers Track

**5150** · 19th April 2011, 11:10

I'd like to see them try it with 42nd. 4wd boys would have an uproar!!!!

**clint640** · 19th April 2011, 11:13

Originally Posted by Night Falcon

my veiw is the fishers is now a lost cause for the likes of us lot....watch out 42nd

They'll have a real fight on their hands if they try & shut vehicles out of the 42nd, I'd say it's unlikely. The 4x4 guys have done a lot of work to keep that track open, both lobbying & hands on maintenance.

Cheers
Clint

**Phreaky Phil** · 19th April 2011, 17:22

I had a good chat with a guy from the Ruapehu District council this morning. He said we would still have access to it. I explained the type of riding we do and that we are on road registered bikes. He said there was a guy at the council who did similar and he might be able to put us onto some more tracks in the area. I explained the importance of keeping our access open even though its not a challenging ride anymore it provides us with "through " access.
It is a grade 2 cycleway which means any old fart should be able to ride it on anything that has pedals.
There will be a narrow opening at the ends as the want to keep quad bikes out

This could pose a problem for BMW's and Fat arse KTM's with panniers

I asked him if we could get an undertaking in writing as to our continued access and he said YES so I will send him an email. I will offer our assistance with measurements of bike widths etc. He also mentioned the Bridge to Nowhere track so I will follow up on that.
All in all, not all bad news, but we'll see what happens

**Night Falcon** · 19th April 2011, 18:18

Originally Posted by Phreaky Phil

This could pose a problem for BMW's and Fat arse KTM's with panniers

thanks Phil, your a ledgend on an off the trail

.....having a big big butt can sometimes be useful though....like to warn off other motorcylists from undertaking dodgy passing manouvers on narrow tracks with long drop offs....not

.....but you do need to be mindfull of other bikes when manouvering around them.....sorry bout that Chris

**MXNUT** · 19th April 2011, 22:33

Originally Posted by tri boy

Kanny has informed me

, that us blokes need to be more receptive to the fact that Fischers has changed.
Apparently we do not make up the total population of adv riders in NZ

, and that other riders

may now enjoy the drop into the Retaruke valley without risking life and limb.

So, guys, we are being officialy informed that we should consider riders like kanny, suzi girl, (sorry mark, my arm was twisted) et all.And that we should be happy that they can now enjoy that ride also.

"Yes dear, coming dear, take out the garbage you say?
Anything for you my dear."
"Whats that?I need an attitude adjustment?

........................

BULL - SHIT

and you can tell kanny i said that

**Taz** · 19th April 2011, 23:34

You realise if we didn't go on such challenging terrain on our rides and stuck to the seal TriBoy might just come along one day.....

**Phreaky Phil** · 20th April 2011, 07:26

Originally Posted by Night Falcon

thanks Phil, your a ledgend on an off the trail

.....having a big big butt can sometimes be useful though....like to warn off other motorcylists from undertaking dodgy passing manouvers on narrow tracks with long drop offs....not

.....but you do need to be mindfull of other bikes when manouvering around them.....sorry bout that Chris

I was actually refering to KTM 990's with panniers, but if you think your butt looks big just ask your wife

**marks** · 20th April 2011, 08:10

Originally Posted by Phreaky Phil

I
There will be a narrow opening at the ends as the want to keep quad bikes out

This could pose a problem for BMW's and Fat arse KTM's with panniers

a scum filter?
what a good idea

**NordieBoy** · 20th April 2011, 08:11

Originally Posted by Taz

You realise if we didn't go on such challenging terrain on our rides and stuck to the seal TriBoy might just come along one day.....

Got a photo of him falling off the scram in the Maungatapu hidden away somewhere...

**Night Falcon** · 20th April 2011, 09:47

Originally Posted by Phreaky Phil

I was actually refering to KTM 990's with panniers, but if you think your butt looks big just ask your wife

big butts are all the fashion in europe...not like japs that got no butts at all.

I asked my wife about my hieny but she said getting rid of my man boobs should be my first priority

Originally Posted by marks

a scum filter?
what a good idea

nah wouldn't work.....you'd also have to include a terd collector for KLR's....but their so large and heavy they'd keep blocking the drains

**Eddieb** · 24th April 2011, 08:55

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/new...ectid=10720915

...

Mountain biking in Tongariro National Park is becoming increasingly popular. But although I saw quite a number of other cyclists, the Old Coach Road isn't the most popular route for peddlers.

The Fishers Track, which starts from National Park itself, described as the next best thing to the Tongariro Alpine Crossing, is the biggest drawcard for the two-wheeled brigade, says manager Jason Cameron of The Park Travellers' Lodge, where we finished a perfect day in the restaurant watching the sunset over Mt Ruapehu. About 95 per cent of the 17km route is downhill, making it easy for beginners such as me.

The 42 Traverse is another route, favoured by experienced mountain bikers. It's a 42km-long remote track and is considered one of the North Island's best mountain bike rides.

**dino3310** · 24th April 2011, 09:42

Originally Posted by MXNUT

BULL - SHIT

and you can tell kanny i said that

I agree mate sounds like someones pussy whipped

**tri boy** · 25th April 2011, 20:41

Originally Posted by dino3310

I agree mate sounds like someones pussy whipped

You'll keep.

**Phreaky Phil** · 28th April 2011, 17:21

I got this reply back to my email today. Good news

Phil – this is the answer from the roading team – I hope it answers your question.

From: Warren Furner
Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2011 3:11 p.m.
To: Peter Till
Subject: RE: Fishers Track/Road Access

Hi Peter

The matter of shared use of roads destined to become Great Rides was extensively discussed during the consultation phase of the Mountains to Sea and Central North Island Rail Trail proposal early 2010. One of the key matters discussed was displacement of existing recreations such as motorised trail bike and quad use, horse trekking, walking, hunting and fishing access. Established occasional uses such as 4WD events and commercial/recreational adventure rides have also been discussed at various levels throughout the country as trail proposal have come to a reality.

In Ruapehu we have provided access for all of the groups listed above except for heavy 4WD vehicles. The reason for limiting heavy 4WD’s is that trails are built to a design loading for cyclist, motorised trail bike use can of course damage the trails as well, however we have agreed to appeal to users of the trails to respect the shared use and needs of other recreations. This will be a theme for safety messages and signs throughout our trails and conflicting uses will need ongoing management. I will use the Share with Care, Common Sense and Courtesy theme on our, on and off road trail sections.

The boundary gates will have a cattle stops and gates installed to allow for horse, quad motorcycles and cycles access alongside a vehicle gate, cyclists will not have to get off bikes to open gates, potentially this will reduce the amount of times gates are left open as well. Vehicle access will allowed in certain circumstances such as emergency services, DoC and Transpower access plus trail maintenance crews. The cattle stops have no less than a 1.4m clear opening and are designed to the national cycle trail design guidelines.

Continued use of the trails by motorised vehicles is anticipated however we will need to carefully manage safety. This is especially true when motorised use opposed the predominant mountain bike direction of travel. Fishers is one such case where care is now required.

I hope this help answer the questions raised by Phil, I would be happy to discuss this in more detail if required.

Regards

Warren

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**Night Falcon** · 28th April 2011, 17:56

Originally Posted by Phreaky Phil

.....The matter of shared use of roads destined to become Great Rides was extensively discussed during the consultation phase of the Mountains to Sea and Central North Island Rail Trail proposal early 2010.

...discussed extensively??? like when the injuns discussed what was good for the cowpokes right before they circled the wagons

......however we will need to carefully manage safety. This is especially true when motorised use opposed the predominant mountain bike direction of travel. Fishers is one such case where care is now required.

...i dont like to say I told you so....but this has a distinct "last rights" feel about it