My response to the proposed strategy by MAG-NZ

[baptist]

Was reading an Oz bike magazine and I see they have a National Fallen Bikers Day. Maybe we could have something similar in the main centres here, followed by static road car/ bike safety awareness displays (ie looking out for each other), inclusive police displays and ambos. Minutes silence and roll call for our past riders. Gotta be better than any militant action

good idea +1

[wysper]

Isnt it about changing public misconception that we are masters of our own destiny? Police, ambos and ACC have some good static displays about ALL road users safety. The same driver that uses the "OOps I didnt see you there in my blind spot" is just as capable of putting themselves under a truck for the same mistake IE. not physically turning to look before a manouvre

Yes we would have to publicly accept culpabilty for our mistakes but its about getting other road users to accept theirs as well and more bikers go down as a result of their mistakes than ours

What car driver would attend a motorcyclist 'roll of honour'?

[chasio]

It's a thought, but would it need lots of car drivers or just enough people to attract the media?

[allycatz]

What car driver would attend a motorcyclist 'roll of honour'?

You don't drive a car????

I'm thinking public bike display with charity collection....at the very least it would fit in with the new proposed rider education....essentially its a day for bikers but if it can reach further, then more than a few good people haven't died for bloody nothing

[Tunahunter]

For any protest action to have a hope of achieving the desired results we first have to shore up our own side of the argument.

We have a long way to go in that respect.

Yes - a well reasoned and coherent argument is essential but I still feel that the message needs to delivered at the Parliament in a forceful way that attracts attention. That was the main point of my post.

[Bald Eagle]

s - the best action would be to have another Bikhoi to the Parliament

Good luck with that

[CookMySock]

It will give all KB 'ers an idea of the stance of the various political parties on these issues - and if they feel strongly enough about the various options, they (the KB'ers) can vote accordingly

Is the margin small enough that we can swing it?

[wysper]

You don't drive a car????

I'm thinking public bike display with charity collection....at the very least it would fit in with the new proposed rider education....essentially its a day for bikers but if it can reach further, then more than a few good people haven't died for bloody nothing

Perhaps if it was tied in with a similar event from a car drivers point of view?
So the car drivers doing a similar thing.

I see your point, really I do, but unless the focus was widened I would feel you were essentially preaching to the converted.

[Maha]

Perhaps if it was tied in with a similar event from a car drivers point of view?
So the car drivers doing a similar thing.

I see your point, really I do, but unless the focus was widened I would feel you were essentially preaching to the converted.

1.2million cyclists in NZ...a few less as every year finishes.
Much like motorcyclists really.
Imagine the turn out to such an event with even 10% of the pedal power there.

[Tony W]

Had a lovely ride to and from Wellington on the weekend. Safely negotiated WRB along the coast; thought of all you people on KB while doing so. I must say WRB improve one's concentration.
The weather was bike perfect. A leisurely ride with some relaxing rest stops.
No problems with the law. No problems with fellow road users. No trouble with our main highways or our gravel back-roads. A totally enjoyable, yet unnecessary trip ... one of life's luxuries.

...SO WTF ARE WE COMPLAINING ABOUT....AGAIN ?

[Fatt Max]

...SO WTF ARE WE COMPLAINING ABOUT....AGAIN ?

You never mentioned anything about a stop off at a pie cart

Sounds like a shite day out to me...

[Tony W]

You never mentioned anything about a stop off at a pie cart

Sounds like a shite day out to me...

....I got a pie at the gas station in Shannon.....does that count.....

aiso, bought a lotto ticket in Otaki....... but.......

[BMWST?]

For any protest action to have a hope of achieving the desired results we first have to shore up our own side of the argument.

We have a long way to go in that respect.

that may be true but we need to do something very soon,and that will not preclude making inroads into issues of our own

[Conquiztador]

There was a time when there was momentum on "our" side. Sadly that time is now gone.

[Maha]

There was a time when there was momentum on "our" side. Sadly that time is now gone.

The momentum was lost soon after it was gained.
Sadly (and I sincerely mean this) the bikoi (like the WRB protest ride in Auckland) was a one hit wonder, never to be repeated. The once huge support for either is just not there anymore.The word acceptance comes to mind.