Oil filter

[chickenfunkstar]

Thought I'd give changing the oil / filter on the SV a go myself today.
After a bit of wrestling, I managed to get the drain plug off ok.

However, I can't seem to get the oil filter off.
I've tried normal twisting, tapping round the outside with a spanner then twisting and having a go at it with rubber gloves.

It doesn't seem to want to budge. Is there any tricks to getting them off?
Or should I just go out and buy an oil filter wrench?
The filter was changed just over 6000km ago so I might just leave the old one in. Would this be ok?

Thanks,
CFS.

[vifferman]

Waht does the maintenance schedule for your bike say? For many vehicles, a filter change every other oil change is OK.

If you have to get it off, you've a couple of options: filter wrench, or the "stab it with a screwdriver" method.

I had the opposite problem with the VTR: I could get the filter off, but not the sump plug. Had to drill it and use an Ezy-Out in the end.

[MSTRS:Me]

Bike filters tend to be quite small so it is generally best to renew with each oil change. Get a wrench or try a leather belt. Put it on the filter so that the end thru the buckle turns back on itself in the unwinding direction - then pull hard. Reverse fitting/pull direction to tighten new filter.

[Two Smoker]

The good old, "stabitwithascrewdrier" works a treat, did it last week on my racebike....

[SixPackBack]

Thought I'd give changing the oil / filter on the SV a go myself today.
After a bit of wrestling, I managed to get the drain plug off ok.

However, I can't seem to get the oil filter off.
I've tried normal twisting, tapping round the outside with a spanner then twisting and having a go at it with rubber gloves.

It doesn't seem to want to budge. Is there any tricks to getting them off?
Or should I just go out and buy an oil filter wrench?
The filter was changed just over 6000km ago so I might just leave the old one in. Would this be ok?

Thanks,
CFS.

Know my gixxer requires a special tool, like a large socket to do the new one up. getting the old one off should be no prob....get brutal

[Sensei]

Make sure if you are going to stab it do it near the End away from the motor so as not to damage the tread that holds it on

[chickenfunkstar]

Thanks for the replies

I would have liked to have changed it but I checked the service manual and it says the filter only needs replacing every 12,000km anyway.

Was tempted to try the 'stab it with a screwdriver' method but didn't really want to mess that one up.

Cheers,
CFS

[DingDong]

Thanks for the replies

I would have liked to have changed it but I checked the service manual and it says the filter only needs replacing every 12,000km anyway.

Was tempted to try the 'stab it with a screwdriver' method but didn't really want to mess that one up.

Cheers,
CFS

Its best to change the filter with the oil, or you'll end up with the same crap going back into your engine... Repco sell a chain filter remover (like the belt) for under $10 you need a ratchet to turn it tho.
Get a wrench... it makes life clean and easy

Grease the rubber "o" ring on the new filter before installing and be sure put the bung in and to fill it with oil too (the new filter and the engine)

[TDC]

The oil filter is hard to get off and that is because it has to be tightened a significant distance after the gasket (read 'o'ring) touches the crankcase (read the fitting instructions on a genuine filter). You __will__ need the suzuki tool or a copy of the same to refit the replacement oil filter correctly and without damage. In short either buy the correct tool for the job or pay somebody to do it for you. Actually the genuine Suzuki Tools is not too expensive.

And make sure you only use genuine filters, I am yet to see a copy filter that is as well made as genuine. Aftermarket filters are cheaper for a reason, they usually have less filter paper of a larger pore size to keep the cost down.

[scumdog]

How many oil changes are you going to do in your life?? More than one?

Don't mess around with screwdrivers and stuff - go and buy a proper filter remover, you'll be glad you did!

[stocky]

many mechanics use screwdrivers too!!!
one of the only options on the occasional stubborn filter
and so useful for other jobs like screws
a belt works too just dont get oil on it cause ur pants will hate u for it

[scumdog]

many mechanics use screwdrivers too!!!
one of the only options on the occasional stubborn filter
and so useful for other jobs like screws
a belt works too just dont get oil on it cause ur pants will hate u for it

Dunno about bikes but on cars I've made effing big oil slicks AND been left with a torn mangled filter still attached to the block more than once when using a screwdriver, hence the reason I don't use them any more.

One non-messy way to use them is to put the tip on the rim of the filter at an angle to the direction you want to turn the filter and give the end of the screw-driver handle a whack with a hammer two or three times - making sure you ARE trying to spin it in the right direction!!

[snozymotto]

I allways change the oil in my bikes every 5000km and have friends that change theirs every 4000km (they are a bit anal!!) but i allways change the filter every time, for the small price of a filter i think its worth it. I used to have a RF900 that the filter was a real bitch to get off and its not like i screwed the living daylights out of it when putting it on! it just tightened up by its self (must be the hot and cold thing maybe) I had to get a wrap around chain type remover that you put a 1/2' rachet onto and it worked great, it mangled the old filter but its stuffed anyway!

[chickenfunkstar]

I allways change the oil in my bikes every 5000km and have friends that change theirs every 4000km (they are a bit anal!!) but i allways change the filter every time, for the small price of a filter i think its worth it. I used to have a RF900 that the filter was a real bitch to get off and its not like i screwed the living daylights out of it when putting it on! it just tightened up by its self (must be the hot and cold thing maybe) I had to get a wrap around chain type remover that you put a 1/2' rachet onto and it worked great, it mangled the old filter but its stuffed anyway!

Yeah I would have liked to have changed it, I had a new one ready to go on.
Just couldn't get the old one off.
I think next time i'll invest in a proper filter remover.
I also noticed that bike filters need to be screwed on more tightly than car filters. (i.e. 2 full turns after contact as opposed to 2/3 - 3/4 turns after contact on a car.)

Nice SV btw

[DingDong]

I allways change the oil in my bikes every 5000km ..........friends .......(they are a bit anal!!)...... i allways change the filter every time........for the small price of a filter i think its worth it. I used to have a RF900 that the filter was a real bitch to get off ...... I had to get a wrap around chain type remover that you put a 1/2' rachet onto and it worked great.....!

I use my chain type on any filter... RF, holden and ute they are all different but they all come off easy

Oh... sorry about your friends