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    Sadly, I suspect you are right. Honesty, integrity, and scrupulous fairness are not highly prized commodities these days.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
    Fuck dude do you know we spent 2 months planning a 'massive march on Parliament' in Feb 2010???, and you know what?
    80 union members showed up....a whole 80...and that was with support from CTU and ACC Futures Coalition...

    Nice idea but they didnt show up last time we tried what makes you think they will now?
    Bring the country to its knee's my ass....... as BE says Apathy has taken the place of passion in NZ and we shot our load in Nov 09 it seems
    Tell me why it was that protests by those opposed to the mining of conservation land worked.

    Kiwis aren't appathtic, they're just not organised.

    Get your marketing people on to it if you've got them.

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    There was a protest about mining conservation land ??????????????? when did that happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
    There was a protest about mining conservation land ??????????????? when did that happen
    What you don't remember Brownlea wanting to open up schedule 4 conservation land to mining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
    There was a protest about mining conservation land ??????????????? when did that happen
    Hello McFly.... It was all over the media. You must have been out of your mind at the time.

    Anyway, I said MAG should be involving pissed off ACC payers and get them to act LIKE the unions not get the unions involved but if they're keen then ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearup View Post
    Tell me why it was that protests by those opposed to the mining of conservation land worked.

    Kiwis aren't appathtic, they're just not organised.

    Get your marketing people on to it if you've got them.
    Spot the difference:
    - emotive issue for a small number of people (for now) largely ignored by the press: ACC
    - emotive issue for a huge number of people stoked up by the press: mining on DoC land

    There's your answer. No marketing we can afford is going to motivate 30,000 people to walk down Queen Street over ACC. If you have a cunning plan for a viral approach not suitable for a public forum, please contact MAG-NZ!

    Of course, when the deal is done and we kiss ACC goodbye, maybe we could find enough motivated people. But by then it will be too late.

    That is not to say there is nothing we can do and smaller (guerilla?) action can be a thorn in National's side and might keep them form charging headlong along their chosen path (or so I can hope). But mass public action is not in our grasp and the pollies will be very careful not to do anything that might get Bikoi numbers going again. Expect gradual chipping away, like at diesels and work trucks.

    Who's next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Nice idea. Tell us how to achieve it.
    It's been tried and tried. For some reason, only bikers seem willing to get off their arses and protest en masse. No-one else seems interested, except a bit of a moan from time to time in casual conversation.
    There were several thousand cyclists prepared to join forces with MAG, opportunity lost yet again.
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    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearup View Post
    Anyway, I said MAG should be involving pissed off ACC payers and get them to act LIKE the unions not get the unions involved but if they're keen then ok.
    How about you get involved? How many times do smart ideas get talked about in the context someoen else should DO IT! FFS! Get involved, dont sit back telling others what they should do and how to do it. No fucking wonder things never get done. The ones that do all the work get pissed off with the talkers, the talkers do nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gubb View Post
    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    How about you get involved? How many times do smart ideas get talked about in the context someoen else should DO IT! FFS! Get involved, dont sit back telling others what they should do and how to do it. No fucking wonder things never get done. The ones that do all the work get pissed off with the talkers, the talkers do nothing.
    +1 but you forgot the naysayers and the doom and gloom brigade. I m not an organiser, which I recognise but I can and will ride in support and support those that do organise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    +1 but you forgot the naysayers and the doom and gloom brigade. I m not an organiser, which I recognise but I can and will ride in support and support those that do organise.
    Which is commendable indeed, but I ask you how can anyone support this protest ride? Why would you target an ACC office anyway? The staff there are simply employees.

    I work in Albany now, but my lunch break does not allow for a 2 hour trip away on my bike. This one will be a fail BIG TIME!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Which is commendable indeed, but I ask you how can anyone support this protest ride? Why would you target an ACC office anyway? The staff there are simply employees.

    I work in Albany now, but my lunch break does not allow for a 2 hour trip away on my bike. This one will be a fail BIG TIME!
    Just take a loooong...eh....Toilet break. You can fit through the windows can't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    There were several thousand cyclists prepared to join forces with MAG, opportunity lost yet again.
    Who? When? Where? Damn, I missed the post advising us of this opportunity.

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    Due to lack of interest and unforeseen unavailability of some key organisers, the event is canned. This doesn't mean we are letting this crap slide, but we will not undertake protest action without significant numbers. Thanks and apologies to those who were planning to support this action, no doubt we will find other things for you to do in future!

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