Three Strikes Protest Run, 5 May

[oneofsix]

Due to lack of interest and unforeseen unavailability of some key organisers, the event is canned. This doesn't mean we are letting this crap slide, but we will not undertake protest action without significant numbers. Thanks and apologies to those who were planning to support this action, no doubt we will find other things for you to do in future!

[Fatt Max]

Due to lack of interest and unforeseen unavailability of some key organisers, the event is canned. This doesn't mean we are letting this crap slide, but we will not undertake protest action without significant numbers. Thanks and apologies to those who were planning to support this action, no doubt we will find other things for you to do in future!

Dont apologise for trying to do something guys, you should be at the very least applauded for making an effort. Keep on keeping on I say and fecking good luck to you.

[Maha]

Perhaps try something with the ''Riders Are Voters''...something new/something that will bring alive the mongrel that once was. Its not difficult...
It is an Election year after all.

[Mom]

Just take a loooong...eh....Toilet break. You can fit through the windows can't you?

There is no way I would "sneak" out of work, I owe my employers far better loyalty than that.

Seems this is a no issue anyway, MAG have canned the protest due to lack of support.

[Gearup]

How about you get involved? How many times do smart ideas get talked about in the context someoen else should DO IT! FFS! Get involved, dont sit back telling others what they should do and how to do it. No fucking wonder things never get done. The ones that do all the work get pissed off with the talkers, the talkers do nothing.

So why does MAG promote itself as the Motorcycle Action Group then?

I was asked to give some ideas (Talking) which is better than slagging off. That equates to doing nothing as far as I'm concerned.

[Gearup]

Spot the difference:
- emotive issue for a small number of people (for now) largely ignored by the press: ACC
- emotive issue for a huge number of people stoked up by the press: mining on DoC land

There's your answer. No marketing we can afford is going to motivate 30,000 people to walk down Queen Street over ACC. If you have a cunning plan for a viral approach not suitable for a public forum, please contact MAG-NZ!

Of course, when the deal is done and we kiss ACC goodbye, maybe we could find enough motivated people. But by then it will be too late.

That is not to say there is nothing we can do and smaller (guerilla?) action can be a thorn in National's side and might keep them form charging headlong along their chosen path (or so I can hope). But mass public action is not in our grasp and the pollies will be very careful not to do anything that might get Bikoi numbers going again. Expect gradual chipping away, like at diesels and work trucks.

Who's next?

Sure, there was a bit of emotion involved but from what I gathered people just didn't want the bastards to get away with it.

[chasio]

...people just didn't want the bastards to get away with it.

I have to agree with you there. And the thing with the emotion was that it was strong enough to get people off their arses and out on the streets.

It's disappointing but given the feedback and the situation for this run, putting it off and re-planning something else makes sense. Try, try again, and all that.

[Mom]

So why does MAG promote itself as the Motorcycle Action Group then?

I was asked to give some ideas (Talking) which is better than slagging off. That equates to doing nothing as far as I'm concerned.

That is a question you will have to ask of MAG. I am no longer involved with the organisation.

[Maha]

So why does MAG promote itself as the Motorcycle Action Group then?

I was asked to give some ideas (Talking) which is better than slagging off. That equates to doing nothing as far as I'm concerned.

Talking? there was always too much talking and not enough doing within the committee forum, some even said at one stage it was getting like KB.
I will be very suprised to see any public action from MAG before October rolls around.
This attempt proves/confirms alot to me...
Dissapointing really, small steps and all that. They couldn't even carry this through.
In my opinoin, the was always too many cooks in the kitchen...
MAG needed to be scaled down, and that has happened.
Unfortunately, the ones that left were the ones that needed to stay.
I am still a paid member and have yet to resign from the committee in order with the rules that were set out in the begining.
MAG need to prove thier worth sooner rather than later.
Why did people hand over $20 in the first place?
Because they were lead to believe that MAG was going to get out there kick some arse. That wont happen, talk all you want......its cheap enough.
We tried on a couple of occassions to get members involved with social/charity runs but, to be honest, if it were not for the committee member turning out, things would have been pretty grim.

[phill-k]

With the right people behind an idea, it takes bugger all for it to be a success..

That is only part of the answer - the "idea" has to have the potential of success as well, expecting a large turnout for a protest on a weekday was always going to fail.

[Maha]

That is only part of the answer - the "idea" has to have the potential of success as well, expecting a large turnout for a protest on a weekday was always going to fail.

My sig applies to what I do, not what MAG or anyone else does.

But you are right.

[bogan]

That is only part of the answer - the "idea" has to have the potential of success as well, expecting a large turnout for a protest on a weekday was always going to fail.

The bikoi was on a tues, bit more fired up back then though, obviously we underestimated the apathy around. We've learnt from this attempt though, and will make it easier for bikers next time.

[phill-k]

The bikoi was on a tues, bit more fired up back then though, obviously we underestimated the apathy around. We've learnt from this attempt though, and will make it easier for bikers next time.

Not sure you can necessarily put it all down to apathy, week days for most who are employed are always going to be difficult especially in today's economic climate.

[Maha]

Not sure you can necessarily put it all down to apathy, week days for most who are employed are always going to be difficult especially in today's economic climate.

If people are passionate about something they will make it happen no matter what.
Key now is, to fire up that passion/mongrel attitude (again) and make it happen...
I said earlier, its not difficult, you just have to know which buttons to push.
The ACC bla bla is about as enticing and attractive as horse shit.
A very small percentage may still care and that in itself is just not enough.
Bikers will react, just not to that saga.
Give them something else, and they will back you.

[Gearup]

I have to agree with you there. And the thing with the emotion was that it was strong enough to get people off their arses and out on the streets.

It's disappointing but given the feedback and the situation for this run, putting it off and re-planning something else makes sense. Try, try again, and all that.

Ok, if you say it's not a go with the mass market then perhaps more of a guerilla approach could produce results.

History is full of success stories using this strategy but it's a fine line to "ride" obviously.

What did you have in mind and what would be the objective given that it sounds as if the ACC issue is becoming a bore.