Three Strikes Protest Run, 5 May

[swbarnett]

Yep and if you don't have a current rego then you shouldn't be on the road, end of story.

Genuine question - what is your reasoning for this?

If you choose not to purchase your rego then prepare to suffer the consequence.

Totally agree but why should the concequences of having no rego be worse than the concequences of not having a WOF, something that can be argued is a genuine safety issue?

[BoristheBiter]

Never mind. You just sit home and watch Jeremy Kyle and someone else will sort it all out.

Will do thanks for your blessing to do so.

[BoristheBiter]

Genuine question - what is your reasoning for this?


Totally agree but why should the concequences of having no rego be worse than the concequences of not having a WOF, something that can be argued is a genuine safety issue?

1) Because it is the law. Why do some people think that they have a right to do things with out paying for them? or think that they are above the law?

2) It shouldn't. IMHO there should be demerits on every road infringement. It might then get people to start obeying the road rules and it might then become safer on the roads.

[Maha]

Yeah...Pro Demerits.....

[oneofsix]

1) Because it is the law. .

Used to be the law that woman, maori and non land owners couldn't vote. Ever here the law is an ass? Demerits should be for bad driving offences. If they made a law that said you got demerits for not paying your taxes would you support that as well (btw the answer is yes because that is what you are supporting)

[Spearfish]

at least 10 characters.

[BoristheBiter]

Used to be the law that woman, maori and non land owners couldn't vote. Ever here the law is an ass? Demerits should be for bad driving offences. If they made a law that said you got demerits for not paying your taxes would you support that as well (btw the answer is yes because that is what you are supporting)

Actually you do get demerits for not paying your taxes, they are called penalty's.

you are talking about two different types of laws, one is basic human rights, the other is the right to drive on the road.
When are some of you going to realise that driving in NZ is not a right.

There should be demerits for incorrect word use, its "hear" not here.

[oneofsix]

Actually you do get demerits for not paying your taxes, they are called penalty's.

you are talking about two different types of laws, one is basic human rights, the other is the right to drive on the road.
When are some of you going to realise that driving in NZ is not a right.

There should be demerits for incorrect word use, its "hear" not here.

Demerit points and fines are both penalties it is the type of penalty applied in the correct circumstance. Let the penalty fit the crime and demerits don't fit non payment of taxes. The original higher finer was better than the lower fine plus demerits.

Who ever said driving was a right? in NZ you don't have rights, you have privileges and responsibilities. As a commuter my bike has just been registered and will be registered when on the road even though it is in the top ACC bracket but it doesn't mean I think the penalty system is correct.

Please if you insist on acting as spelling/grammar police get it right yourself, penalties is plural they don't owe anything especially not the taxes.

[BoristheBiter]

Demerit points and fines are both penalties it is the type of penalty applied in the correct circumstance. Let the penalty fit the crime and demerits don't fit non payment of taxes. The original higher finer was better than the lower fine plus demerits.

Who ever said driving was a right? in NZ you don't have rights, you have privileges and responsibilities. As a commuter my bike has just been registered and will be registered when on the road even though it is in the top ACC bracket but it doesn't mean I think the penalty system is correct.

Please if you insist on acting as spelling/grammar police get it right yourself, penalties is plural they don't owe anything especially not the taxes.

So what's your point?
Except for the rights or wrongs of the penalty system, which is fucked up for everything, you have just agreed with what I just said.

[Big Dave]

Are bikers getting just a little paranoid or developing a persecution complex?

Only on this web site.

[oneofsix]

So what's your point?
Except for the rights or wrongs of the penalty system, which is fucked up for everything, you have just agreed with what I just said.

My point is the wrongs of the penalty system

[Horace]

I am with Boris on this one tell it like it is pal Protest is our only recourse use this right while we still have it if you can not ride with us write to your MP or better still do both

[BoristheBiter]

My point is the wrongs of the penalty system

Thats the problem isn't it. the whole system is fucked up, not just ones for road rules.

[StoneY]

1) Because it is the law. Why do some people think that they have a right to do things with out paying for them? or think that they are above the law?

2) It shouldn't. IMHO there should be demerits on every road infringement. It might then get people to start obeying the road rules and it might then become safer on the roads.

Take th H out mate you're anything but humble

I have no issue with fines for non registration, or riding while on hold
But demerit points on a tax collection issue is ridiculous

Demerits for running a red, sweet as.
Speeding, of course!
Failing to give way, rake it up to 50 points!
No WOF, give em the points by all means! (And WOF fines have NO demerits at this point of time)
Etc etc........

But this crap about surrendering plates, demerits for expired reg or riding while on hold, is getting over the top and is just pathetic.
Its tax enforcement, not road enforcement
Add to it, the insult to injury of the multiple vehicle owners.

1 car and 4 motorcycles in my household
2 operators
Should be paying 2x ACC levy that includes a Motorcyclists fee, and a mere admin fee on the other vehicles.
Then we would not put any on hold.....and could afford to keep em all fully licensed all year round

[oneofsix]

Thats the problem isn't it. the whole system is fucked up, not just ones for road rules.

and if we don't protest it will just get worse.
Also think about why they want to use demerits for not have rego, its because the cost of rego is so high that the fines alone can't keep up so they are trying to divert. Part of the divide and conquer mentality.