Three Strikes Protest Run, 5 May

**swbarnett** · 28th April 2011, 23:19

Originally Posted by Katman

That is why the only sensible risk-rating (if we were to go down that path) is on the individual.

The only sensible risk-rating for the good of all is to not have any. Spread the cost to EVERY member of society in an equitable manner and take it from income tax. Only then will we start to achieve a caring, community based society.

**StoneY** · 29th April 2011, 08:43

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Aren't we all...

Or maybe every idiot out on a bike just happen to be attracted to and ride KTMs, so there is a very high crash rate for KTMs. Up go the levies just on that brand.
Ludicrous? Maybe. But it's the logical extension of what has already been set in motion re risk rating.

Hey is it a coincidence that I own a KTM and it is in the shop awaiting an insurance claim repair??? Was it the KTMs fault that rock was on the road at River road roadworks site???
Ironic really... especially considering my consultancy role.... (and I get where you come from John and completely agree with you)

Funny enough, the only ACC claim I have made in...30 years???? is in relation to a broken wrist I achieved falling down the stairs at an office party, Christmas 2008...... (still goes click click too I must be old)

**Bald Eagle** · 29th April 2011, 09:02

Should be an exceptional risk rating levy for office parties , they can be really bad for your health.

**Luckylegs** · 29th April 2011, 09:20

Originally Posted by Bald Eagle

Should be an exceptional risk rating levy for office parties , they can be really bad for your health.

...And more importantly, Reputation !

**oneofsix** · 29th April 2011, 09:27

Originally Posted by swbarnett

The only sensible risk-rating for the good of all is to not have any. Spread the cost to EVERY member of society in an equitable manner and take it from income tax. Only then will we start to achieve a caring, community based society.

Seem people are so self centered and willing to point fingers that they don't see the forest for the trees. This risk takers talk is part of it. Is a forestry worker a risk taker? yes in this sense. Is a guy doing wheelies a risk taker? yes but of a different sort and again it depends if he is doing the wheelies in s controlled environment as part of a stunt demo then he is like the forestry worker and contributing to society as a whole. Is the rugby player a risk taker? yes so does this mean we are covering the overseas teams during the world cup?
Risk based then why no massive levies on horse float regos? Horse riders are the biggest claimers of the lot and most of them are taking the risk for their own selfish enjoyment.

**MSTRS:Me** · 29th April 2011, 09:38

If you get right down to it, beds are the worst of the lot. I mean, there's countless back injuries suffered through use of them. And they are the single biggest factor in most deaths.

**StoneY** · 29th April 2011, 10:00

Originally Posted by Luckylegs

...And more importantly, Reputation !

Have to have one of those before you can dent it ....... LOL

**Gearup** · 29th April 2011, 12:19

Originally Posted by bogan

Funnily enough, there isn't a 'magic bullet' single event that will fix the levies (if there was going to be I think the bikoi would have done it). So why not have a shot at a few different ideas? you could say MAG-NZ has a full clip

Some of the ideas/concerns put forward in this thread are certainly worth considering, and may be applied in future events; also if you want to lead a future event log on to our forums and make it happen.

How about this B man?

Why don't MAG get a national campaign going and get all other pissed off ACC payers involved then have a massive protest action and shut the country down just like the unions do.

This ACC and bikers crap has been going on since 1978.

**MSTRS:Me** · 29th April 2011, 12:32

Originally Posted by Gearup

Why don't MAG get a national campaign going and get all other pissed off ACC payers involved then have a massive protest action and shut the country down just like the unions do.

Nice idea. Tell us how to achieve it.
It's been tried and tried. For some reason, only bikers seem willing to get off their arses and protest en masse. No-one else seems interested, except a bit of a moan from time to time in casual conversation.

**Bald Eagle** · 29th April 2011, 12:36

I seem to remember a time when the union movement could bring the country to it's knees ( usually during the holidays ). Apathy has taken their place and is thriving.

**Katman** · 29th April 2011, 12:39

Originally Posted by Bald Eagle

I seem to remember a time when the union movement could bring the country to it's knees ( usually during the holidays ). Apathy has taken their place and is thriving.

And just remember how reviled unions were back then.

**StoneY** · 29th April 2011, 13:26

Originally Posted by Gearup

How about this B man?

Why don't MAG get a national campaign going and get all other pissed off ACC payers involved then have a massive protest action and shut the country down just like the unions do.

Fuck dude do you know we spent 2 months planning a 'massive march on Parliament' in Feb 2010???, and you know what?
80 union members showed up....a whole 80...and that was with support from CTU and ACC Futures Coalition...

Nice idea but they didnt show up last time we tried what makes you think they will now?
Bring the country to its knee's my ass....... as BE says Apathy has taken the place of passion in NZ and we shot our load in Nov 09 it seems