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    So why aren't they?

    Check the last paragraph. THAT is the message we want out there. Not this bullshit about how hi-viz will save us...
    Rider was very lucky. He was on a 100kph road. I can only guess at how much speed he was able to scrub off before impact. His other option of avoidance wasn't good...this intersection is a mess of raised traffic islands.
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    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    No money in it.

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    Good work Ray Wylie

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    So bright colours doesn't increase visibility of vehicles?

    Interesting theory, any proof to back it up?

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    Car driver's pretty lucky not to be injured as well. That pic looks like she would have gotten a free retainer adjustment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red mermaid View Post
    So bright colours doesn't increase visibility of vehicles?

    Interesting theory, any proof to back it up?
    Car wasn't a 'bright colour'...and the rider saw it just fine. There's no way he hit that door still doing 100kph...

    A year or so back, TPTB in their infinite wisdom made headlight-always-on a legal requirement "because that will make bikes visible to other motorists".
    That headlight was coming square-on to her driver's door AND SHE DIDN'T SEE IT.
    The lesson is that (a huge number of) motorists just don't look. Your MORE ENLIGHTENED colleague can see that, and knows that is where the effort should be directed.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    That headlight was coming square-on to her driver's door AND SHE DIDN'T SEE IT. The lesson is that (a huge number of) motorists just don't look.
    Do you think she didn't look at all or she misjudged the speed and tried to beat the bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazfender View Post
    Do you think she didn't look at all or she misjudged the speed and tried to beat the bike?
    Well - there's seeing and seeing, eh? The article is all I 'know' of this incident - and we all know how the media get it wrong. My point in posting this was the cop's comment and how it isn't the message that is being pushed BUT SHOULD BE.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Where in the article does it say the headlight of the motorcycle was on, or off?

    And it says the motorcyclist had all the correct safety gear...possibly to the officer this means he did have a fluro vest on.

    You always assume too much to twist things round to your point of view.


    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Car wasn't a 'bright colour'...and the rider saw it just fine. There's no way he hit that door still doing 100kph...

    A year or so back, TPTB in their infinite wisdom made headlight-always-on a legal requirement "because that will make bikes visible to other motorists".
    That headlight was coming square-on to her driver's door AND SHE DIDN'T SEE IT.
    The lesson is that (a huge number of) motorists just don't look. Your MORE ENLIGHTENED colleague can see that, and knows that is where the effort should be directed.

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    The correct safety gear by law is a helmet.

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    To most folk, riders anyway, I'd imagine correct safety gear to would refer things such helmet, gloves, decent jacket, pants and sturdy boots. He does mention the rider suffered a possible sprained ankle. A hi vis vest isn't going to stop injuries from happening in cases like this. The driver and rider where damn lucky to come out relatively unscaved.

    Driver and rider awareness is the answer.

    Edit- Posted by someone who was t-boned riding colorfull full leathers( I know it is hard to imagine that), a large faired white and red bike with headlight on Prefer black now for some strange reason. Maybe it's just the webble in me.

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    this article has inspired CREATURE an L Plate rider that you can never learn enough to be a safe rider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creature View Post
    this article has inspired CREATURE an L Plate rider that you can never learn enough to be a safe rider.
    Way back when I first stared riding I was told "it doesn't matter if they didn't see you, if you saw them you should be able to avoid the incident" - granted it doesn't always apply but I suspect that is why this rider had already lost a lot of his speed.

    The simple reality is that it doesn't matter how safe a rider you think you are, because you are only one of many factors that could leave you sliding down the road on your butt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creature View Post
    this article has inspired CREATURE an L Plate rider that you can never learn enough to be a safe rider.
    But you CAN learn enough to make yourself a safER rider...

    Never underestimate the degree of influence you can have on your own safety. Ask Katman, he'll tell ya...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    Driver and rider awareness is the answer.
    OH this is probably something they are going to waiste all our MSL "safety levy" dollars on! A driver awareness campaign that we shouldn't be paying for!' That should be out of normal funding like the drink drive campaigns etc!

    Money collected from a tax nobody else pays to use the road.

    Then they'll say look at all the wonderful things we spent your money on???
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