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    eek New tyres - personal research

    i need to get some new tyres for my bike so i decided to check it out some of the threads and see if i could find some feedback on whats what.
    at first it looked like the avon tyres were a way to go, a bit cheaper than the mainstream brands and good quality but now i'm second guessing after reading this thread on another forum where a lucky guy had a bad experience and more ppl started to tip in...





    the original thread here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636925


    have anyone here had any experience such as this here?

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    Pirelli

    Only ever had pirelli sport demons on my vf or gsx, never had any problems with these tires,although they do wear quickly when doing a lot of gravel. Tires in pics dont look too good,never had anything like that happen.
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    Haven't run Avons for a while, but only ever had issues with wear, never a failure.
    Didn't read the whole thread, but saw mention of the ultra not being recommended by Avon for the st. We see in cars all the time where idiots run tyres without enough load rating for the application, maybe this is the case here?
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    That's not something you'd expect to see on a back tyre.

    I'd say that photo is likely to be a one off duff tyre and not going to be a common fault.

    What would be interesting here would be to see the actual age of the tyre (not when it was sold). Older tyres can disintegrate in this way. You can buy new old tyres really cheaply and the seller doesn't tell you how old the tyre is.

    If you look on the tyre wall you will see a stamp with the week and year of manufacture on the side in a WWYY format.

    Avons are fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I'd say that photo is likely to be a one off duff tyre and not going to be a common fault.

    What would be interesting here would be to see the actual age of the tyre (not when it was sold). Older tyres can disintegrate in this way. You can buy new old tyres really cheaply and the seller doesn't tell you how old the tyre is.
    Three failures with one tyre type and one rider though?

    Tyre couldn't have been too old, as they were only released around 08 I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I'd say that photo is likely to be a one off duff tyre and not going to be a common fault.
    It is very unlikely to be a "one off" duff tyre, due to the way they manufacture them you would normally get batches of them, and even that is very uncommon when you consider how many are made

    Without stripping the tyre from the rim and inspecting both inside and outside it's nothing more than guesswork on every bodies part as to why it failed
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    I've had an avon (viper sport/supersport from memory) front do the same at a track day on the shoulders, turned out to be ~ 4 years old at time of purchase by previous owner.So just put it down to that.
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    Ahhh someone looking in the same direction ... saving me searches.



    I know Jack about modern tyres for post 80 bikes.

    I have Pirelli Sport demon fitted front and rear to my just purchased XJ750.

    Question for anyone with experience with these XJ / Pirelli: Are these good tyres,or is there something better to replace them for good old down the road touring use?


    aside ... Avon's used on classic British bikes (pre Hinkley) are great, but really good old Dunlops do the trick as they don't need high speed rating
    Some tyres suit different bikes and situations (obvious) it's just getting the right formula.
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    pirrelli would one of the best tyres made.period.However wether or not they are the correct tyres for your old xj is another point entirely

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    Quote Originally Posted by granstar View Post
    I have Pirelli Sport demon fitted front and rear to my just purchased XJ750.

    Question for anyone with experience with these XJ / Pirelli: Are these good tyres,or is there something better to replace them for good old down the road touring use?
    The Pirelli sport demon are good tyres, Bridgestone BT45 are another good option for those older bikes
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    Thanx for replies.
    Yep realise Pirellis may not be the ones, sortta why asking.


    Bridgestone BT45
    are they the ones they call Battle axe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by granstar View Post
    are they the ones they call Battle axe?
    They are part of the Battlax range
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl View Post
    Three failures with one tyre type and one rider though?

    Tyre couldn't have been too old, as they were only released around 08 I believe.
    yeah, it is kind of strange isn't? i mean, if you have a bad experience with a tyre you'd probably get a different one next time but then, maybe he had a stash of those... we dont know his circumstances.

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    I'm actually looking to get tyres for the DRZ-SM. i got a deal on a rear michellin pilot power but as it is a rather soft compound i'm a bit concerned about the mileage i can get from those. i will be mostly using to commute and weekend rides.

    if you guys have any suggestions, fire away

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    I currently have Avon Storm Ultra 2 sport tourers on my Street Triple after having used their original Storm predecessors on my Blackbird for many years. Have done about 7000 km on them now and they're superb, particularly in the wet. They also roll into a corner rather than tip in, giving them a nice even feel. The only problem ever experienced with Avons was when the Storms were first released. This was a manufacturing imbalance with the front hoop but that was fixed by the manufacturer and I got a free replacement.

    I'll be going back to a full sport tyre on the Triple next time. I was extremely impressed with the Avon VP2 on the 'bird but its life was a bit limited because of the weight. It will be a lot better on the Triple.
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