you won't get the specs of the laser or radar - they are held only by esr, and they won't release it (falls in line with the HUNT/TOLICH eba decision).
you won't get the specs of the laser or radar - they are held only by esr, and they won't release it (falls in line with the HUNT/TOLICH eba decision).
Loud and Uncouth
40 demerits etc
A lot of advice given is not based on the innocence or otherwise of the "ticket" recipient, rather it is "how you can get off for something you actually did" - if you get pinged fair and square don't waffle on about "how do you know it is the exact time" - the cop only has to have "reasonably informed" the offending driver/rider, maybe you could look at his watch at the time to check in case it is two minutes fast???
I've just come back from a rally and after being passed by "squids" on their sports bike on the crest of a hill/double yellow lines I have to agree the penalties are arse-about-face, the life of myself and my pillion put at risk because some arse-wipe was too impatient to wait 15 seconds until they were over the hill, the penalty? $150 if they get reported!!b.t.w, I was behind two cars and a truck so the "squid" was on the wrong side of the road for more than a second or two - imagine if another bike had been coming the other way doing the same thing?
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
" Life is not a rehearsal, it's as happy or miserable as you want to make it"
Immature and proud of it.
Stalker specs are available on the web. Frequency, sample rate, accuracy ( which is quite different to what our cops claim) etc.
Lou
L-Plate Rider
You will loose nothing by writing a letter to explain your side of the story. Just dont be to smart..........................Remember the Squeaky weel gets oilled............sometimes. I wrote in not long ago about my wifes ticket. Explaining her many faults.........bad driving not one of them. They withdrew the ticket. Good luck
Whorem Fore
Gotta agree with Scum - if you are caught you are caught....unless there are extenuating circumstances - you made your bed - lie in it.....Originally Posted by scumdog
Now - if there is a gross miscarriage of justice fine - but really - it is not like the focus on speeding isn't highly publicised....
Immature and proud of it.
If people didn't protest against and/or ignore bad laws, we would still have prohibition.
Lou
Whorem Fore
So based on that reply - you are against laws prohibiting speeding?
That is a ridiculous comparison also.....yeah yeah and woman wouldn't be voting blah blah blah....
Yes it needs potential fine tuning (what law doesn't as society evolves) - but your inference is that 1: the speeding laws are bad, 2: they should be protested against and/or ignored.
Good luck to you - your world must be a wonderful utopia where people are actually able to police themselves in a governmentless and beauraucracy free system.....however, on this planet - people need some semblance of framework with which to live within and coexist with one another with social responsibility.
My two cents anyway.....
Salted Pork
Yeah, like he said!!!
Mobile Oil Stain
I agree with Lou,If laws are not challanged then they do not evolve.
But then who am I to kick the negitive band wagon
Weekend cruiser
Well Mr Devil's Advocate!
Soon you may start believing in all the stuff you say and become the personification of a model traffic citizen.
Then you will be able to do something helpful for all your fellow KBikers and put your nice radar detector up for sale along with all your other bike gear
Immature and proud of it.
The alternative to bad law is not no law, it is law that is understood and respected by the most of the public. We used to have some like this, but you might not remember them, wkid.
lou
Forum whore
But then, these days, everything seems to be black or white, with no shades in between, unlike how most societies operate!
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
Deus ex ukulele
A lot of bad law is drafted with good intention, but it's still bad law. Just look at the recent dog control laws and other interventions on people's life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. I agree with Lou -- you've got to challenge this stuff relentlessly. The "fart tax" law got thrown out after persistent challenge, so the system does work from time to time...
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
e mare libertas
Agreed. It's my impression that despite (or perhaps because of) the incessant whinging that characterises our culture, NZ has one of the 'truer' democracies in the body of 'western' states at present. It really, really is possible here for a vocal group to persuade the majority and have an according effect on governmental policy, and we do still retain an element of real representation in our parliamentary system.
You try pulling a stunt like getting the fart tax repealed in the USA... it'd probably work if you were an oil corporation (say), but not a private individual or group of non-commercially-conglomerated farmers.
Really... if the entire KB membership wrote coordinated letters to our MPs and the Herald on a common issue, say, resources devoted to speed policing vs. road infrastructure investment - who's to say it wouldn't make a difference?
Yay! Go us.
excuse maker (yerr,but...
Yer fair enough. Just needed some cool down time.
Thou I might still try a letter.
What innoyes me is the fact it was a muffty car that pulled me up for something that wasn't dangerous. It was good conditions, wide road, little traffic, No pedestrians.
Had it been a marked cop, I would have seen him and slowed.
Had there been a child with ball on the side of the road, I would have seen them and slowed. Had it been a car, looking suspiciously like turning infront of me, I would have slowed. But I saw the muffty car, and considered it not to be a threat to me, or I to him, and continued on.
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