40 demerits is it worth it?

**Coldkiwi** · 21st January 2004, 11:02

Originally Posted by Redstar

Another Tip to spot a plain police traffic car is this.
usually if you can afford a falcon xr6 or a commadore s late model you have a boat?
and it needs a tow bar. unless da da its a traffic cop.
there are exceptions to the rule but from behind coming up no tow bar take a closer look.
You watch they will fit tow bars now just to spite us!

this is of course all well and good assuming you're approaching from the rear and they don't have a rear radar going (quite common).

If however, you are unfortunate enough like me last night to be approaching from the front at dusk and they have a laser... you are well toasted. (at 89 m to be exact)

how long do demerit points stay on your licence for again?

**duckman** · 21st January 2004, 11:21

So how fast were you going CK ??

**Drunken Monkey** · 21st January 2004, 11:49

Originally Posted by Coldkiwi

how long do demerit points stay on your licence for again?

2 years from the date your offense was settled, if you had it challenged, otherwise 2 years from date of offense...

**scumdog** · 21st January 2004, 15:32

Originally Posted by Dave

I always look for the lowered cars with standard steel wheels-no one else would do that!

Yeah, you guessedit, they also have mag wheels scattered throughout the fleet down here!!!

**Coldkiwi** · 21st January 2004, 16:31

Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey

2 years from the date your offense was settled, if you had it challenged, otherwise 2 years from date of offense...

what if I didn't challenge it but was slow paying the fine?

**Coldkiwi** · 21st January 2004, 16:48

Originally Posted by duckman

So how fast were you going CK ??

classified info! But I was going faster before he zapped me so it's not all bad.

I intend to write a letter though because my detector didn't go off and there is a vague chance he was lazy and simply booked me for the offence of the previous driver. The speed he showed me was about right but I would've thought I would've got some signal on the escort because a bike is a pretty small target.

long shot I know but might be worth it!

**Wolve** · 21st January 2004, 17:24

Originally Posted by BugSplat

The messages we send:

Take it on the nose & just pay – says we enjoy roadside taxation & want to keep being routinely shafted.

Defend a doubtful ticket – says there’s no profit issuing doubtful tickets, so if an ‘Officer’ isn’t convinced a Court will uphold the charge, then it’s best for them to let you off with a warning.

Defend, defend, defend all the time every time – says roadside taxation will become un-profitable, the cops will be spending 80 %+ of their time in court & not meeting their quotas. The Government will be loosing money on ‘Roadside Taxation’ and, God willing, we’ll see more realistic enforcement policies that are really safety based & not just revenue collecting.

There were over 1.5 million roadside taxation notices issued a year.
Consider the court time to process all these if we all stand up for our rights:

Say there are 40 courts working on nothing else, they schedule 10 cases per day, 255 days a year, It would take more than 14 years to process 1 years worth of tickets. Now if you throw in some of Jackrat’s suggestions & each ticket means 3 court dates we’re talking 42 years to process.
Even a politician is going to have to accept that that’s not sustainable.

Remember, we managed to get rid of the “Broadcasting License Tax” by making it cost more to collect than was actually collected.

to bloody right , ive been done by the

for going 6km's over the speed limit............I shit u not

**wkid_one** · 21st January 2004, 17:54

Rubbish - don't believe that

**Redstar** · 22nd January 2004, 20:46

Yeh the tow bar rule was only expounded as a tip it is true that they will go to no ends to trick us but nevertheless we operate on probabilities not definites and every bit of armore counts so tow bar fitted is better than none and yes naturally that an approach from the rear and applies to motorway action only. unless you have a sixth sence you operate within the speed limit or play the probability game. statistically the traffic wardens(I refuse to call them Police) as that implies integrity reckon that 75% of mororcycles operate outside the law the hit rate for them is really good. I was stopped twice and amazed the wardens that i was legal. one said and I quote "most bikers are illegal in some way" so its worth a go for the wardens quota.
in the UK traffic wardens are scum and they have two yellow bands around there hats which prevents you parking on their heads without getting a ticket

The latest thing is for joe public to report juviniles going graffitti or unlawful assembly or litter bugs and dogs crapping on pavements to the local nic so the real police (whom I have undieing respect for can waste time on section 19 discharges while the Wardens in flash new cars that I paid for ignor this activity cause theres no profit in it prefering to impede the good people of New Zealand in the pusuit of Motorcycling pleasure

I need a holiday and some therapy

**XRNR** · 22nd January 2004, 21:05

Originally Posted by Redstar

...I need a holiday and some therapy

Good tip, Go riding with Marty!

**SPman** · 22nd January 2004, 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wkid1
Rubbish - don't believe that

And why not? They can ticket you for 1km over, if they want to.
Perhaps he was behind in his quota.

You gotta feel sorry for a lot of cops (but not all) sometimes. Reamed out by their bosses for not giving enough tickets, or reamed out by the public for giving too many minor, inconsequential, nit picking tickets, to make up their quota to keep the politicos and LTSA happy!

Perhaps a Police revolt is in order?...........