Increase the CC bracket for rego to "0->650cc"

[crazzed]

170hp 250cc bike.

Where's mine?

soon some 650 twin will be able to be riden on ya learners you muppet

[Oblivion]

problem with your theory though is the whole power to weight, horsepower based is no better than cc based, as there are a few high horse bikes that need the horses cos theyre fucking heavy.

And lets go back to the basics.

ACC WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A NO FAULT SYSTEM.

People need to stop coming up with strategies for LETTING acc fuck us in the ass, and keep fighting. unles cars are ALSO going to have similar costs etc, then theres no reason for bikes to have them.

Unless we can overthrow the prick Nick Smith, we wont see anything good happening. I think that everyone agrees that he is the source of the problem? But I don't see him giving up anytime soon. There's just too little of us to be frank.

[FJRider]

Unless we can overthrow the prick Nick Smith, we wont see anything good happening. I think that everyone agrees that he is the source of the problem? But I don't see him giving up anytime soon. There's just too little of us to be frank.

So ... those that CAN vote for Nick Smith ... DONT ... problem solved ...

[Oblivion]

So ... those that CAN vote for Nick Smith ... DONT ... problem solved ...

Wait...He's elected?

Quick...Call a by-election

[Oblivion]

soon some 650 twin will be able to be riden on ya learners you muppet

I reserve my right to be a muppet Thank you

[blackdog]

soon some 650 twin will be able to be riden on ya learners you muppet

None that I am aware of.

Unless they are specifically restricted for learners as some LAMS bikes in Aus.

er6 for example comes in restricted and full hp forms over there.

Some 600 plus singles however (think BMW f650 etc) will be learner bikes, and in the top rego bracket. I can hear the money grubbers rubbing their hands together from here.

[Okey Dokey]

A house divided against itself will fall. Bikers should argue against the entire cc class separation, not trying to slip into cheaper categories, or argue hp ratios instead. Divide and rule is what ACC is doing. They have separated bikers from car drivers, now bikers turn against each other depending on ccs ? Fight the real enemy!

Bogan hit the nail on the head when he said the real reason higher cc bikes were targeted with the higher rates is because they were perceived to be owned by people on higher incomes, who presumably could afford to pay more. Wrong and unfair.

[Ocean1]

people on higher incomes, who presumably could afford to pay more. Wrong and unfair.

It's the single common feature of every one of the multitude of taxes we pay. Of course it's unfair, but it's the only way any government could ever get it's hands on over half of the country's wealth.

[Okey Dokey]

It's the single common feature of every one of the multitude of taxes we pay. Of course it's unfair, but it's the only way any government could ever get it's hands on over half of the country's wealth.

I should clarify, that I meant some riders have saved like hell on below average incomes, and gone without other stuff, to get their dream bike. The cc rating doesn't change my income, nor will I get a higher ACC payout in the form of wage compensation, in the event of an accident, just because I ride the bike I do. My post was a bit unclear on that point; thanks for picking up on that, Ocean.

Higher cc does not always equal higher income. Life is unfair, but it is never unfair to my advantage (Okey Dokey's Rule)

[Rhys]

Which is most likely to be ridden to its limits buy an inexperienced rider CBR250 or Honda gold wing, yet the old fossil is pay more acc

[bogan]

Which is most likely to be ridden to its limits buy an inexperienced rider CBR250 or Honda gold wing, yet the old fossil is pay more acc

yeh but the goldwing is about 8 ton init? can flatten a few buildings with one of those suckers

you're correct though, the 51-250 injury rate is significantly higher than the rest

[Gremlin]

If you cared about the cost of rego (as in, the difference between classes, not the outrageous fees in total) then the answer is simple.

600cc sportsbike with a supercharger.

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Or a 600 with a Busa swap.

[MSTRS:Me]

Rego-based levies are bullshit and always have been. It's only now, with the splits and increases that we realise that.
Yes, we can only use one vehicle at a time, but that doesn't mean that nobody else can use one of yours when you aren't....
However, doesn't it upset you to know that your rego is a ticking meter - counting down to a zero balance - whether you use the thing or not?

[jasonu]

yep I totally agree. No way a 1600cc Harley can go as fast as a 1000cc superbike or a vespa or a tricycle

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