Why am I so unco on R handers and how do I fix this?

[Number One]

Dear mods...I did do a search but couldn't find anything about not being able to go around R hand corners as well as L hand corners.

This didn't surprise me as I'm guessing it's just silly old unco me...but if not just me and there are threads about how to cure this please point me in their direction.

I'm guessing in my case it's something to do with the whole brain thing of turning towards the centreline and the fact that the throttle is on the right but after having bucket raced and done other bits and bobs I am frustrated that I can go round Lefties happily and feel really good and confident and on the track was scraping that knee so again confident YET Righties are never that comfy for me and on the track I don't think I've even ever been close to leaning it over enough to get that R knee down.

Shall I just sell the bike now and give up or is this something others have had trouble with and fixed for themselves?

[Dutchee]

Dear unco, you are not alone.
another unco
p.s. off to track down a link to a loooooooong thread about R handers

[slofox]

There was a thread on this very topic just a week or so back...lemme see if I can find it for ya...

[Number One]

Dear unco, you are not alone.
another unco
p.s. off to track down a link to a loooooooong thread about R handers

Oh that's encouraging to hear it isn't just me then!!!!

There was a thread on this very topic just a week or so back...lemme see if I can find it for ya...

Sorry guys and thanks in advance. I tried a whole bunch of search options too.

Righto - move along everyone

[Dutchee]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...t=hand+corners
see if it's the same one Slofox was thinking of (only 4 pages, I thought it went on longer)

Oh, and how do you fix it? Go riding with Trudes & Str8 at Kaitoke (kick Craig off his bike)

BTW, it's always good to figure out you're not the only one having the problem.

[slofox]

Oh that's encouraging to hear it isn't just me then!!!!



Sorry guys and thanks in advance. I tried a whole bunch of search options too.

Righto - move along everyone

Still can't find the thread...

[JakeTehMuss]

There was a thread on this very topic just a week or so back...lemme see if I can find it for ya...

Here you go

It took me a while to get use to the search function on here. You will get there

[White trash]

Right hand turns draw you closer to the centerline whereas lefts take you away from it at the apex. That's one explanation. Maybe.

Do you cover your rear brake pedal at all times when riding? If so it'll feeel wrong to move your leg into a good cornering position while leaving the brake uncovered.

[Number One]

Here you go

It took me a while to get use to the search function on here. You will get there

Thankyou Mr Muss there's tonights reading sorted

[slofox]

Yep - that's the one. I found it too eventually...

[Number One]

Right hand turns draw you closer to the centerline whereas lefts take you away from it at the apex. That's one explanation. Maybe.

Do you cover your rear brake pedal at all times when riding? If so it'll feeel wrong to move your leg into a good cornering position while leaving the brake uncovered.

Yeah I do think some of it the mindF%$k of the centreline...though strangely given that I travel much deeper into L handers before turning than R handers. Despite my brain telling me all the time to go deeper I end up getting too close for comfort on the centreline.

BTW - I don't cover my rear brake and only use it quite sparingly...just for upright MUST STOP moments actually...

[riffer]

It happens to everyone Number One. There can be any number of reasons for the problem with left/right.

I've found that a stiff neck can cause difficulty for me in getting good sight lines causing issues.

Also how comfortable you are in placing the weight on the inside peg can make a big difference. Do you have any hip/knee injuries causing you to favour one side over another? This could cause you to put more weight on the inside peg for left handers, but less for right handers, which makes the centre of gravity that much higher.

I've found that when my difficulties with the right handers come back again I go back to my practice techniques - check head movement is correct, find the sightline for the corner, more body slightly over to right, push right bar forward while weighting inside peg, straighten head - all stuff you know but sometimes going back to basics helps a lot.

[Number One]

I've found that a stiff neck can cause difficulty for me in getting good sight lines causing issues. .

You may have hit a nail on the head there ya know....I am a bit caught up in my neck and shoulder on my r side at the moment. It does feel like I'm just not looking through far enough through and end up focussing in all the wrong places...bank on side of road and centreline which I am trying to avoid...dumbarse! I think I best get back to my osteopath quick smart as a good start for solving this - it doesn't feel nice at all!

Also how comfortable you are in placing the weight on the inside peg can make a big difference. Do you have any hip/knee injuries causing you to favour one side over another? This could cause you to put more weight on the inside peg for left handers, but less for right handers, which makes the centre of gravity that much higher..

LOL ok it's not the bike or anything else...it's me, I'm for the glue factory I think!
Right ankle is buggered and doesn't have full range of movement..hips are dodgy arthritic messes. I do however weight my 'outside' peg not the inside...

check head movement is correct, find the sightline for the corner, move body slightly over to right, push right bar forward while weighting inside peg, straighten head - all stuff you know but sometimes going back to basics helps a lot.

You are so right all stuff I know but thanks for the reminders for sure. I do think I am not pushing on the right bar as much as I do on the left.....lots to think about in preparation for practise time!!!

Here's hoping for some sunshine on the weekend and an opening in my osteos appointment schedule soon so I can get to practising these things consciously.

[Trudes]

I prefer lefties too doll, same reason as you too I think, not keen on leaning into or near to on coming traffic (understandable when you see so many fuckheads who have no idea how to drive around corners and have to cut them). I found what helped me a bit was to start as far left as possible before turning in, turn in later so it feels like you spend less time at the apex rather than riding 'around' it (don't know if that makes any sense), relax... especially your grip and make sure there is a good bend in inside elbow and probably the biggest thing I found helped is where I am aiming or looking. Instead of the middle road white or yellow line (or at the other side of the road) I try and aim for just my side of it to leave some room before coming close to the line, again being far left before turning in gives more room to do that.
Don't know if any of that will help you, as you and I both know I'm no expert.

[AllanB]

Ditto. Every bike I have had has had a larger chicken strip on the right than the left. And if you consider most roads slope to the left then I should have a better chance of eating up more on the right of the tyre. Alas it is not so.

Just a wee bit unco on the rights and I can live with that.

I just put it down to dressing to the left and having to swing all that weight over to the right messes up the corner ......