General bitch (oops, I mean discussion) about bikers thread

[avgas]

so, to troll, accidents are satans fault and bears don't shit in the woods.

And British cars are for homos (elton john) and royals (who are also gay)

[Edbear]

Not if someone blindly denies their inattention.

Haven't noticed anyone doing that either.


Unless I wasn't paying attention at the time...

[Katman]

Unless I wasn't paying attention at the time...

Hey, maybe we're getting somewhere.

[R-Soul]

Me.
Every one of my accidents could have been avoided.
But I take the philosophy that I learn from my mistakes, and that learning should be fun.
I just have too much fun - which is my major problem.

Me too...
I was a complete miscreant with large ego, and no training, education, information, common sense or talent (well...maybe some talent), and went out and did stoopid things while pissed. Completely avoidable if I had bothered with a small amount of research or even asking around. But teenage boys with ego dont ask. They just go.

I am damn lucky that I can still walk and talk, in fact live at all. It could have been ridiculously bad....

[Fatt Max]

I wish I was Reckless.....

He is a good looking bastard with sexy leathers and a nice bike,

Where as I am a big fat person

Yeah, good onya Reckless, I luvs ya.....

[White trash]

I had an avoidable one just yesterday actually.

Was practicing sliding the bike into a U-turn with the back locked up and sideways, then spinning the rear up to get a little drift happening to head the other direction. Mistimed it slightly and managed to not get the clutch dumped quickly enough and dropped the bike as it became stationary. Learnt that when that happens, my freshly painted stator cover gets scratched. Fuck it.

[MSTRS:Me]

Jimmy!! Naughty boy! We've told you before to leave your training wheels on!

[Oblivion]

I had an avoidable one just yesterday actually.

Was practicing sliding the bike into a U-turn with the back locked up and sideways, then spinning the rear up to get a little drift happening to head the other direction. Mistimed it slightly and managed to not get the clutch dumped quickly enough and dropped the bike as it became stationary. Learnt that when that happens, my freshly painted stator cover gets scratched. Fuck it.

Show dem boi racerz whuz boss!

[White trash]

Jimmy!! Naughty boy! We've told you before to leave your training wheels on!

I'm sorry Wont do it again until I've got a crash cage fitted.

[MSTRS:Me]

Maybe we are totally wasting our time re trying to bring down the frequency of bike crashes?
Boys and girls - we're all human. And we will make mistakes. Sometimes we learn from them. Sometimes we don't. Sometimes we don't get a second chance to learn.

Trouble with mistakes is the smallest, most inconsequential ones can have the worst of outcomes. And sometimes we walk away from Armegeddon.

What we can't get away from is the attitude that seeks to shift blame for any accident. That's all we can really affect. The hope is that will lead to a lowering of the number of crashes, which *should* lead to a lowering of the injury rate. What those injuries are, is more a case of luck.

[tigertim20]

I also think that a lot of the people who happily gloss over the idea of accountability in someone's accident by parroting the old "really sorry to hear about your off but at least you're ok" are simply trying to ensure an easier reception in the event of themselves having an accident.

We need to develop an attitude of intolerance towards avoidable accidents.

Ok. when you get run down by a drunk driver, Ill be the first to piss on ya grave, (having driven there drunk) while ranting about how you stupid biker cunts are giving us drunks a bad name by riding underneath our cars.

Anyone wanna chip in for my plane ticket?

[Number One]

I also think that a lot of the people who happily gloss over the idea of accountability in someone's accident by parroting the old "really sorry to hear about your off but at least you're ok" are simply trying to ensure an easier reception in the event of themselves having an accident..

What a load of shite...good troll and if you actually mean that then I'd say your reckoning is right up there with someone who recently commented that people who donated to a fallen female rider only did so as they wanted into her pants.

I don't disagree with the personal accountability message but for me, once again your delivery causes me to just

[Ender EnZed]

Maybe we are totally wasting our time re trying to bring down the frequency of bike crashes?
Boys and girls - we're all human. And we will make mistakes. Sometimes we learn from them. Sometimes we don't. Sometimes we don't get a second chance to learn.

Trouble with mistakes is the smallest, most inconsequential ones can have the worst of outcomes. And sometimes we walk away from Armegeddon.

What we can't get away from is the attitude that seeks to shift blame from any accident. That's all we can really affect.

Absolutely.

So why are there efforts being made to reinforce this attitude of avoiding blame in all but the most obvious of cases?

[Maha]

Absolutely.

So why are there efforts being made to reinforce this attitude of avoiding blame in all but the most obvious of cases?

Because, in alot of cases, the SCU report is rearly veiwed by anyone other than those close to the crashee.
Case in point: Light plane crash last year at Marsden cove, CAA report says that Mr Hopper made a fatal error of judgement during take off (showing off to his mates on the ground, he pay the ultimate price and dies)
His father still blames the wind...

Same with ''some'' bike crashes, its everything else but the riders fault.
Even if a Coroners report says differently, the mind set of some will never be changed.
Fact of life.

[baptist]

Sorry I was just wondering who was General Bitch? Imagine a whole armed force of miscreants. Admiral Arsehole. Captain Dirtbag, Sergeant Slutface, Major Developments.

We need pictures!

I thought it was General Accident and Major Incident.....

Accidents happen whether you like it or not. I broke my back at 45km/h doing everything right. I was driving a road that was notorious for accidents - which fact I knew well as I drove that road every day to work. I was very familiar with the road, the traffic conditions, and my vehicle was up to standard. I was driving to the conditions. Now tell me it was avoidable and I need to take responsibility for it.

I was stationary giving way to an oncoming car (I was in a car in a passing bay) in a country lane in England when another car came hooning down the lane and straight up my rear end... result a broken back... you're right mate sometimes accidents do just happen, for me to have moved would have resulted in a head on collision.

I avoided an accident this morning, made sure I had a good poo before getting on the bike what with all that lager and curry I had last night....

phew the world had a lucky escape...

Really? So what, exactly, does that mean? We ostracise anyone who ever has an accident that was remotely avoidable? Take their bike away?

Seriously, how the hell do you effect an "intolerance towards avoidable accidents".

See you must realise the human mind is perfect, mistakes are not tolerable at all, gas them all.

I was gonna say put them against a wall

What rubbish. Anyone with half a clue knows they're caused by the Big Gay Honda riding Elf in the sky, punishing us for tolerating avoidable accidents.

fixed it for ya...

And British cars are for homos (elton john) and royals (who are also gay)

I like English cars and I do not own a Honda...