General bitch (oops, I mean discussion) about bikers thread

[Fatt Max]

Boys and girls - we're all human.

That there is the essential statement with regards to our species. I appreciate that it only relates to 98.75% of people on this site of site's, but for me it really is the only thing that can explain, detract from, criticise, be the cause of fault or any other instance, circumstance, action or reaction.

But hey, it's fun to juggle the buns on this so please dont let me stop you

After all, we are all human.....

[MSTRS:Me]

... juggle the buns ...

If they are sticky buns, then I'd have to assume that a narrow escape from one accident lead to one of another type. Was it your fault or couldn't you help yourself?

[Spearfish]

So what have we learned here today?

Obama killed Osama

A woman went under a bus

and this thread is at the same point it started.

[ducatilover]

And British cars are for homos (elton john) and royals (who are also gay)

I'm on my third Honda and love my British cars. pass the cock please.

[Oblivion]

Obama killed Osama

We all know that he was killed over legal rights to the "S"

[MSTRS:Me]

Next you'll be telling us it was Corporate America's fault...
Poor old Osama - innocent, just like bikers who crash (oops, sorry, I mean have an accident)

[Katman]

Ok. when you get run down by a drunk driver, Ill be the first to piss on ya grave, (having driven there drunk) while ranting about how you stupid biker cunts are giving us drunks a bad name by riding underneath our cars.

Anyone wanna chip in for my plane ticket?

Wow, that's a lot of anger there Tim.

Perhaps you should run along and toss a quick one off. It may relieve a bit of pressure off your brain.

[Grubber]

Thanks for the red, makes a change from so much green, I was getting bored with green.

If you don't like what I said, or, as your red rep says, I don't have a clue, how about giving us a clue as I'm not the only one here who thinks the same of you? What are you not telling us?

He is a one man army that shoots reds. I got one the other day too. Funny as!

Same way you do with drink driving or cigarette smoking.....that's working isn't it?

They aren't accidents! they are by choice.

Park yourself up on the likes of the Coro Loop for a summer's weekend and you'll see plenty of them.

Funny enough. The percentage isn't what you indicate going from what i have seen over there!

Here's another one........

Park yourself up in the proximity of any motorcycle racing event and at the end of the day you'll see plenty of them.

Sound familiar?

I have departed many a race track and can't say i have been inundated with idiots. Couple here and there but not a multitude by any means.

Bollocks.

The reckless very often live to cost the country a small fortune.

The truly careful don't actually have that many accidents.

At least i would agree with this one.

So what about 'inattentive'?

Not as bad as 'reckless' but certainly none the less culpable.

Ya see....your just looking for ways and means to stamp your ground. How much further do you need to go, how much more picky do you need to be.

but there is more room for hairsplitting there and room to discuss why the inattention occurred and learn from it. for instance was the inattention due to a distraction that any normal human will react to, like the two cops that rammed each other at the intersection, I think that has been put down to distraction.

Hairsplitting is what it seems to have come to....I think we all learn from our moments. Thing is we don't need the Katmans of this world to tell us. We're all grown up now.

Not if someone blindly denies their inattention.

Most people who screw up in any way are generally happy to put their hand up.
The few that are in fact a case of complete recklessness are few and far between i believe.
It's a case of personal responsibility all round for sure and when we fuck up, sit down and analyse it all somewhat so it won't happen again. But to infiltrate every damn thread to push ya annoying little case is kinda tedious to say the least.

[Katman]

Most people who screw up in any way are generally happy to put their hand up.

Post of the year.

[pzkpfw]

Surely for Katman, the best way to screw is to put his hand up.

[Oblivion]

Surely for Katman, the best way to screw is to put his hand up.

And we have a turn around

[neels]

So a blatant Katman baiting thread, good to see it wasn't wasted.

Anyway, I've dropped 2 bikes on their sides when almost stationary, and freely admit in both cases I fucked up. I know I've fucked up lots of corners in my time, but obviously don't ride at 10/10 as I've always gathered it up and carried on.

In the only coming together with another vehicle I've had when a van driver turned across my path when my lane was clear, who I managed to almost miss and only ended up with the wife with a bashed foot, short of stopping for every oncoming car passing every driveway in case they turn right I don't see what else I could have done to avoid it.

So does that make me a careful, attentive rider, or just lucky so far?

[Spearfish]

Probably a bit off topic....

Is it possible to be so focused on not crashing that I'm creating myself more risk of doing so?
This wet riding season has given me the shyts more than any other so far. I'm not sure if ignorance got me through the last few winters with no real problems or what but the last month or so the exact the same situations are triggering a bigger reaction. I'm guessing its just a phase but its not a safe phase...Its almost like everything is new and I'm being hyper sensative to what I perceive is a hazzard.

Ok, back on topic...carry on the conversation.

[Katman]

Its almost like everything is new and I'm being hyper sensative to what I perceive is a hazzard.

You quite possibly are becoming hyper sensistive.

Don't worry, soon that heightened awareness will seem normal.

[Spearfish]

You quite possibly are becoming hyper sensistive.

Don't worry, soon that heightened awareness will seem normal.

There is a normal?