Motorcycle Advisory Council launches new website and brand

[Katman]

BD says I'm not allowed to abuse the comprehensively challenged.

I'm surprised you didn't tell him "Nobody tells me what to fucking do! Mind your own fucking business!".

Did he neuter you?

[Big Dave]

BD says I'm not allowed to abuse the comprehensively challenged.

So I'll be just over here, refraining from commenting on the local and various village idiots’ shortcomings.

Guffaw! - that's nothing like what I said!

[p.dath]

Yes, those you decry are indeed better than you, they find they're confident enough in their abilities that they dont' need to blame every other fucker for their own shortcommings.

The problem is that a lot of people "confident" in their abilities are only confident because they are unable to accurately identify their weaknesses.
Of course you will be confident in your abilities if you can't see anything your doing wrong. Of course, training usually addresses this - because those same people learn what they can't do.

This is especially prevalent in young drivers/riders. Hence the reason why they appear so prominently in accident statistics.

[Smifffy]

Thank you to P.Dath for announcing this. Well done.

A good start, still I'm puzzled as to why it took so long to set up, perhaps they needed to wait for approval on the name & branding?

I am especially looking forward to seeing the 'action' page updated to 'actions' that have been taken and progress made, rather than the thoughts on what would like to be achieved.

I checked out the news for specifics, like the link said, I hope it won't be 3 months between updates on that page.

I'd offer some analysis and opinion of the site if I thought anyone was interested, but I don't want to get into personal shit slinging.

Great start, I'm still not sure what the money is going to be used for, exactly.

[Usarka]

Anyone who says their riding could not be better is an idiot. Most of us know that.

Great way to reach the people who don't get it

[Fatt Max]

I'd offer some analysis and opinion of the site if I thought anyone was interested, but I don't want to get into personal shit slinging.

Air your opinion mate, the shit slingers are not worth bothering about. If you make the effort to make an opinion then good the fuck on you I say.

I've spent far too long in circles where, if you wanted my opinion, someone else would give it to you

[warewolf]

The Govt have ring fenced 30$ from each rego on bikes

No, that is untrue. Let's be clear about this: they extorted an EXTRA $34.50 (incl. gst) from each rego on bikes.

this is the only factor WE motorcyclists get to control via a group of Motorcyclists that have strong ties to the Motorcycling community....

Which is in itself extremely sad. We shouldn't be charged extra in order to have our say.

We should be endeavoring to not spend a single cent, have all "approved" projects lobbied to be paid for by general revenue, and then claim the extra $30 (ex gst) is not required and revoked. Use the $34.50 for the lobbying if necessary.

[Big Dave]

For the record, Mr Warewolf is one the examples of doing it 'right' I meant.

[Big Dave]

[QUOTE=Fatt Max;1130056173]Air your opinion mate,


When we want your opinion - I'll give it.

[Smifffy]

Air your opinion mate, the shit slingers are not worth bothering about. If you make the effort to make an opinion then good the fuck on you I say.

I've spent far too long in circles where, if you wanted my opinion, someone else would give it to you

Thanks, I sent my opinion to the contact email on the site. Will wait and see what they have to say, if I get a reply, no doubt they are very busy.

[Fatt Max]

[QUOTE=Big Dave;1130056303]

Air your opinion mate,


When we want your opinion - I'll give it.

Are you my missus in disguise.....??

[Howie]

What an interesting website MotoNZ is, I disagree with at least one of the examples they use on there action page, but not going to comment on that here. The other thing I find interesting is that they have the sign up for updates advertisement on every page. this to me show's a sign of a self serving organisation which wants people to sign up so that they can say look at us, we have X'000's of people who are interested and support us. One contact page would be enough. However in saying that I'm totally against the seperate levy, and most if anything that comes from it could have been acheived from the general levy, or through other organisation's/ GOVT departments that already exist.

I for one well not sign up for updates as I do not want to be counted as one of those who buy into the singling out of motorcyclist's.

[MSTRS:Me]

However in saying that I'm totally against the seperate levy, and most if anything that comes from it could have been acheived from the general levy, or through other organisation's/ GOVT departments that already exist.

I for one well not sign up for updates as I do not want to be counted as one of those who buy into the singling out of motorcyclist's.

Reckon most of us would totally agree with those sentiments. I agree that the whole thing could be have been done via the general fund.
Trouble is - we HAVE been singled out. 'Buying into' or ignoring it isn't going to change anything. And I don't see the govt repealing it, any time soon.

Climbing on board with the effort to improve poor m/c crash stats may be seen as a sell-out. But is it, really? If these efforts (whatever they are) work, then a whole lot of riders, and their friends and families will not have to suffer as many tragedies. Isn't that a good thing?

[Big Dave]

But conversely in this case they are singling you out for benefit. OK - you have to pay for it, but...

Personally I don't care about $35. Particularly if it's getting Stoney cheap hookers, booze and junkets to Thailand.

[Ocean1]

But is it, really?

And did they get you to trade
Your heros for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?