ANPR vans

[jazfender]

Correct, you can be an absolute asshole and still be acting totally legally. It generally doesnt work much the other way round. Much of what is good and righteous is and always will be legal, as it is the general basis for the law.

I agree with your first sentence.

[Zedder]

wow now there goes some heavily rose tinted glasses.

What took you so long SS?

[smoky]

Yes it was the new camera cars the N/S cops are testing. There read your number plate and instantly MR Plod knows your name, licence number,Rego and warrant. If any of them are illegal your sprung.BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE if Mr Plod types a few keys he can check unpaid fines,arrest warants and any thing on all data bases.Past criminal histroy by type (eg burgler sex offender) Also keep a record of all the cars that pass that way and the time they did it. When they are up and running they generate enough work for 2 bike cops and 4 cars. I believe there is a cop car with one on it's roof.

If you think about it - all that technology and being set up by cops? whats the chance it'll work for a whole shift, then there's the shit poor download speeds for info on our internet in NZ, well be a couple miles clear down the road by the time the page has loaded with our "instant" details, then all that information has to be read and understood by a donut distracted idoit in blue! We'll be at lest 10 miles down the road by the time they've got their thick heads around it.
Bring it on twats

[Scuba_Steve]

What took you so long SS?

...yea I'm lost

[BoristheBiter]

Im younger than alot but freedom to modify vehicles was taken away.
and the last one I mentioned was taken away in my time and probably had the biggest personal effect on me.
as for censor why should someone else decide what you can have? would you be ok if they decided Gixxers were banned because their awesomness might be offensive to some old person who has nothing better to do but complain?

I'm sorry but that would have to be one of the worst answers i have seen you post.
You are still allowed to modify your vehicle.
You have never been allowed to ride your dirt bike on public roads.

So you are saying that it is alright for some pedophile to do what they do because it is his freedom to do so?
So you want a place where everyone can just do as they please?
What sort of place do you think it would be?
All this is crap about our freedom being taken away is just paranoia bullshit.
And as for being tracked by our number plate, what do you think happens every time you use your phone, every time you use the internet, every time you use a bankcard.
Every month i get a printout sent from my web hosting company telling me who has been looking at my website. You should see the information that can be gathered just by that alone.

[scumdog]

All this is crap about our freedom being taken away is just paranoia bullshit.

Which is warmly embraced and perpetuated the *T.F.H.W. of KB.





*tin-foil hat wearers-

[_Shrek_]

And as for being tracked by our number plate, what do you think happens every time you use your phone, every time you use the internet, every time you use a bankcard.
Every month i get a printout sent from my web hosting company telling me who has been looking at my website. You should see the information that can be gathered just by that alone.

just paranoia bullshit? & this happens every day!!!

[jazfender]

So you are saying that it is alright for some pedophile to do what they do because it is his freedom to do so?
So you want a place where everyone can just do as they please?
What sort of place do you think it would be?
All this is crap about our freedom being taken away is just paranoia bullshit.
And as for being tracked by our number plate, what do you think happens every time you use your phone, every time you use the internet, every time you use a bankcard.
Every month i get a printout sent from my web hosting company telling me who has been looking at my website. You should see the information that can be gathered just by that alone.

1. Explaining that an advance in monitoring or liberty restriction is justified by basing it on the status quo is fucked up. That's the shit that gets dictators elected.

2. You're the only one talking about paedophiles.

[Zamiam]

Its the head in the sand approach of the majority that leads to all kinds of loss of civil liberties which often leads to attrocities

"First they came…" is a famous statement attributed to pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group. The text of the quotation is usually presented roughly as follows:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Those that we allow to "rule" are very good at chipping away at our rights/freedoms all in the name of progress. Those with the master plan must laugh themselves silly with the "you only have something to fear if you have done something wrong" brigade.

Where can I buy a good quality tinfoil hat?

[scumdog]

Those with the master plan must laugh themselves silly with the "you only have something to fear if you have done something wrong" brigade.

...he said 'master plan'....

[BoristheBiter]

1. Explaining that an advance in monitoring or liberty restriction is justified by basing it on the status quo is fucked up. That's the shit that gets dictators elected.

2. You're the only one talking about paedophiles.

What liberty restriction? There is now a way of instantaneously checking a number plate and because of that hand out a ticket for it. Nothing has changed you just are more likely to get a ticket quicker if you drive without a wof or reg or be stopped if you are driving a stolen car.

If you can't figure out what i was meaning in a reply to SS then i won't bother trying to explain as it evidently went over your head.

Its the head in the sand approach of the majority that leads to all kinds of loss of civil liberties which often leads to attrocities

"First they came…" is a famous statement attributed to pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group. The text of the quotation is usually presented roughly as follows:

Those that we allow to "rule" are very good at chipping away at our rights/freedoms all in the name of progress. Those with the master plan must laugh themselves silly with the "you only have something to fear if you have done something wrong" brigade.

Where can I buy a good quality tinfoil hat?

Post 120 and goodwins law is alive and well

And still no one can tell me what freedom they have lost.

[swbarnett]

We're way behind some countries but my philosophy is: If you're doing nothing wrong then don't worry about being monitored.

Define "doing nothing wrong". This is a very individual definition. What you consider OK may not agree with what I do, or indeed the law. Do you want cameras in your bedroom to make sure that your sexual practices are legal?

Just because you feel you're doing nothing wrong doesn't mean a future (or curent) government will agree.

[avgas]

Where can I buy a good quality tinfoil hat?

You can't anymore. Its all Alu foil now.
Conspiracy?

[Scuba_Steve]

I'm sorry but that would have to be one of the worst answers i have seen you post.
You are still allowed to modify your vehicle.
You have never been allowed to ride your dirt bike on public roads.

So you are saying that it is alright for some pedophile to do what they do because it is his freedom to do so?
So you want a place where everyone can just do as they please?
What sort of place do you think it would be?
All this is crap about our freedom being taken away is just paranoia bullshit.
And as for being tracked by our number plate, what do you think happens every time you use your phone, every time you use the internet, every time you use a bankcard.
Every month i get a printout sent from my web hosting company telling me who has been looking at my website. You should see the information that can be gathered just by that alone.

Are you really this stupid or just trollin???

I have lost the ability to ride my dirt bike on public roads, we always used to ride along the beach all the time on sunny days you'd see people everywhere on dirt bikes riding the beach (always away from the public) and this was on a cop patrolled beach everyone was happy. This has been taken away!!!
You cannot modify your vehicles with the freedom of before all the older guys round that enjoy modifying will tell you this.

As for pedophile what is your obsession?, are you upset and think that because your interest has been banned (for good reason) no-one else should be allowed freedoms either? Your interest DOES affect other people directly, the freedoms we want DO NOT affect other people.

[Zamiam]

You can't anymore. Its all Alu foil now.
Conspiracy?

Theirs one freedom that we've lost right there. How dare they make us wear aluminum. It's known to increase the likelihood of Alzheimer's - maybe that's the plan - it we can't remember we don't know what we've lost.