ANPR vans

[Edbear]

Wheres the fun in that tho?.

I get a laugh out of cruising past hidden camera vehicles, marked cars and fixed speed cameras with disdain. The number of times I have rounded a corner and commented to my wife, "Good thing I wasn't speeding..."

There is a time and place and as the saying goes, "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime." or if you do choose to flout the law, accept the consequences.

[jellywrestler]

Did someone mention that if you're not breaking the law you don't have a problem..?

not so Ed, this shit can all be recorded and if there's a crime nearby they can use the info to check all the vehicles in the area and you're on the suspect list, remember how they caught Renee Chignall?.
Next thing what about harrassing people for outstanding fines etc those maggots are going to pull you over because the owner of the vehicle is of interest to them, I don't want that thanks

[cheese]

LOL people will be moaning about this is all about revenue gathering, but all they are doing is catching those who break the rules.

If you can't afford to put a WOF and Rego on it, you can't afford to have that vehicle.

[_Shrek_]

LOL people will be moaning about this is all about revenue gathering, but all they are doing is catching those who break the rules.

If you can't afford to put a WOF and Rego on it, you can't afford to have that vehicle.

we have 5 trailers, 3 utes, 1 truck, 4x4 & 3 bikes & it's got to a point of what do we put on hold etc... but we need them for our business & we use our bikes for both & our son uses his to get to school etc
so if we are having trouble doing Rego etc... "are you saying" we should sell them all & go on the dole as we couldn't work?

way I see it we can't drive/ride more than one vehicle, so therefore we should only be registered, which makes it fair, but the gubbermint wont do that coz they are revenue gathering so they can have their big salaries & go over seas on our taxes

[jellywrestler]

LOL people will be moaning about this is all about revenue gathering, but all they are doing is catching those who break the rules.

If you can't afford to put a WOF and Rego on it, you can't afford to have that vehicle.

the WOF system is flawed, why should i need an expensive warrant the trailer i use four times a year? ditto with maybe a bike or a car that does maybe 1000kms a year. we live in a technological era that can let us have warrant on a mileage used basis.

[gwynfryn]

Shit i could rant on about the cost of bike rego, i can feel my blood pressure rise as i type this. The fact is that we are an easy target to increase ACC coffers . We are subsidising cyclists ,horse riders, rugby players,dirt bikers etc etc.
It would be interesting to see some figures on bike regos as many good honest tax paying men and women such as myself are finding ways around paying full price for bike registration.
Go the cb1300 farm bike that has its rego on hold for 6 months of every year.

[Daffyd]

the WOF system is flawed, why should i need an expensive warrant the trailer i use four times a year?

Because vehicles, especially trailers, deteriorate just as fast sitting doing nothing as they do with regular use.

[motor_mayhem]

the WOF system is flawed, why should i need an expensive warrant the trailer i use four times a year? ditto with maybe a bike or a car that does maybe 1000kms a year. we live in a technological era that can let us have warrant on a mileage used basis.

Clearly you are confused about how a wof works. It is a test to make sure your trailer is safe and that it doesn't have say a loose wheel that could fly off and bowl over some car, motorcyclist or other commuter. And yes time does allow for things like rust to set into bearings etc. unless they are properly maintained. How do we know the maintenance is being carried out that keeps the trailer safe? thus the point of the wof. And consequently it does need to be run at the current intervals. On the other hand registration is supposedly paying for your road usage and all its entailments and that system doesn't take usage into account which IMO makes it flawed.

Glad to clear that up for you.

[ktm84mxc]

There's been one in use in counties for a while it's a white Hyundai van with tinted windows and two cameras one at each end , they have been testing it for a while now it appears it's ready for use.
saw it on GT South rd Takanini 2 weeks ago with a car either side 50 meters apart, they match rego to car/bike details , if you watch the English cop shows you'll see how the system works and next it'll be you'll need third party insurance or it's a long walk home.

[sootie]

I am going to predict a fairly rapid increase in the number of these devices in use. As a revenue gathering exercise, it is likely to be more productive timewise & safer than trying to stop vehicles which are speeding.

At the moment, I imagine that the vans being used are really only being deployed on roads which are:
* long & straight
* carry a lot of traffic
* probably 80 or 100kph speed limit

I wonder if in time we will see meter maids using hand held versions, and two up cop cars driving around supermarket car parks?
What would the law be on that?

[oneofsix]

Did someone mention that if you're not breaking the law you don't have a problem..?

Yeah they did but do you trust authorities whos top spy agency didn't even know a man that threw a fireworks party to celebrate his residency was an NZ resident to co-relate their databases and only pick up law breakers. Hope you have Kim's millions to fight it with.

[oneofsix]

the WOF system is flawed, why should i need an expensive warrant the trailer i use four times a year? ditto with maybe a bike or a car that does maybe 1000kms a year. we live in a technological era that can let us have warrant on a mileage used basis.

How do the authorities or you know how many Ks that trailer has done since its last WoF a few years back?

Lets say the trailer has been sitting down the bach (lucky if you have one) since its last WoF, hasn't done more than 20k since gathering that load of wood off the beach and the axle has been quietly rusting away. Are you happy to be follow it down the road on your bike?

Distance travelled isn't the only thing that causes bearing etc to fail.

[sootie]

How do the authorities or you know how many Ks that trailer has done since its last WoF a few years back?

Lets say the trailer has been sitting down the bach (lucky if you have one) since its last WoF, hasn't done more than 20k since gathering that load of wood off the beach and the axle has been quietly rusting away. Are you happy to be follow it down the road on your bike?

Distance travelled isn't the only thing that causes bearing etc to fail.

Totally agree with oneofsix.
I used to have a boat trailer & wheel bearings on them are a big issue irrespective of mileage.

[jellywrestler]

Clearly you are confused about how a wof works. It is a test to make sure your trailer is safe and that it doesn't have say a loose wheel that could fly off and bowl over some car, motorcyclist or other commuter. And yes time does allow for things like rust to set into bearings etc. unless they are properly maintained. How do we know the maintenance is being carried out that keeps the trailer safe? thus the point of the wof. And consequently it does need to be run at the current intervals. On the other hand registration is supposedly paying for your road usage and all its entailments and that system doesn't take usage into account which IMO makes it flawed.

Glad to clear that up for you.

wonderful so why doesn't my van need a warrant every two months then as it's used a lot and the wheel could come loose at any time. what i'm saying is in this day and age a system that requires a warrant on usage etc is more acheivable. as for trailers hubometers can be used. i fucking hate having to get warrants all the time and yes i do see the need.

[oneofsix]

wonderful so why doesn't my van need a warrant every two months then as it's used a lot and the wheel could come loose at any time. what i'm saying is in this day and age a system that requires a warrant on usage etc is more acheivable. as for trailers hubometers can be used. i fucking hate having to get warrants all the time and yes i do see the need.

No matter how you base the WoF or how often you get a WoF unless it is every time you go to use the vehicle things can go wrong between obtaining the WoF and the next WoF. This is one of the reasons I don't agree with WoFs, they give operators a false sense that their vehicle is OK because it has a WoF and that the WoF check will pick up any thing before it gets too serious. What is wrong with you doing a walk around check of your vehicle every time you use it.
BTW our roads are no safer than those states that don't have WoF, we have just as many vehicle safety related crashes.