ANPR vans

[Edbear]

that info is also on your speedo on your bike too.

Really? How novel!

Will it be limited to 'safety' applications only? Or will we see regos checked? vehicle movements stored temporarily?

Who cares?

[davereid]

While ANPR is part of a gradual creep to a survelliance state, which is of course an instant path to a tyrannical state, it a wonderful dead end.

I have wondered how I will get away without licencing my motorcycle. ANPR gives me the the tool. In fact it will become so popular that they will get rid of the licence label (and the popo's brain if thats not already been done.)

An interested human being might see a heavily tattooed man on a unlicensed Harley Davidson with a person of interest flag.

The ANPR popo will see an teenage girl on a fully legal moped.

Its part of our evolving police state. But it will give me another ten years without paying a rego fee.

[swbarnett]

Yes, ANPR is getting better,

That depends on your point of view. While it may be getting better at spying. It is definitely making our society a less desireable and more difficult place to live.

And, for the record, I have nothing at the present moment to fear directly from ANPR. I have no outstanding warrants, never have and am likely to never have in the future. Anybody who ways "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" has their head permenantly planted where the sun don't shine.

[red mermaid]

I really do need to get down to the Horowhenua much more often.

While ANPR is part of a gradual creep to a survelliance state, which is of course an instant path to a tyrannical state, it a wonderful dead end.

I have wondered how I will get away without licencing my motorcycle. ANPR gives me the the tool. In fact it will become so popular that they will get rid of the licence label (and the popo's brain if thats not already been done.)

An interested human being might see a heavily tattooed man on a unlicensed Harley Davidson with a person of interest flag.

The ANPR popo will see an teenage girl on a fully legal moped.

Its part of our evolving police state. But it will give me another ten years without paying a rego fee.

[Ocean1]

I really do need to get down to the Horowhenua much more often.

Yeah?

What dates?

[BoristheBiter]

That depends on your point of view. While it may be getting better at spying. It is definitely making our society a less desireable and more difficult place to live.

And, for the record, I have nothing at the present moment to fear directly from ANPR. I have no outstanding warrants, never have and am likely to never have in the future. Anybody who ways "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" has their head permenantly planted where the sun don't shine.

Goodbye then, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Where is it might not be perfect, I do have a few things I rant about, it is a wonderful place to live.
As we have a large group of different people and cultures I think we do quite well.

[FJRider]

The ANPR popo will see an teenage girl on a fully legal moped.

Its part of our evolving police state. But it will give me another ten years without paying a rego fee.

If the ANPR system was the only readers of license plates ... it might be a fair assumption.

If the ANPR system was in each town and city throughout the country ... (which it is NOT) ... it may just be a gamble.

But the Popo in a mufti car ... that saw a Harley doing a dodgy lane change ... making other vehicles brake to avoid him (or any other minor infringement) ... will see a plate that does not match the bike it's on.

Or ... a "Random license/breath test check" on a motorcycle rider (any motorcycle rider) ... on any road ... anywhere ... might SEE things that don't match with what their computer says it is.

Good luck ...

[Scuba_Steve]

Goodbye then, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Where is it might not be perfect, I do have a few things I rant about, it is a wonderful place to live.
As we have a large group of different people and cultures I think we do quite well.

if it's such a "wonderful place to live" why are you so happy for the slow rollout of the oppression machine to make it not so???
I like it here thats why I DON'T want to see it become America or anything like it, yet these system keep taking us closer & closer

[red mermaid]

What dates do you suggest?

Yeah?

What dates?

[Ocean1]

What dates do you suggest?

Any one. I'll be doing my hair that day.

[BoristheBiter]

if it's such a "wonderful place to live" why are you so happy for the slow rollout of the oppression machine to make it not so???
I like it here thats why I DON'T want to see it become America or anything like it, yet these system keep taking us closer & closer

because I don't have a tinfoil hat on.

[steve_t]

Speed cameras can now recognize vehicle size as it needs to in order to enforce the 90 kmh open road speed limit for heavy motor vehicles, and cars towing trailers. Remember it's only a 4 kmh tolerance for those vehicles too. That's the infra red thing.


Still, never let the facts stand in the way of a good whinge.

Did I miss something? Do we have a permanent 4km/h tolerance now?

[swbarnett]

Goodbye then, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Where is it might not be perfect, I do have a few things I rant about, it is a wonderful place to live.
As we have a large group of different people and cultures I think we do quite well.

It definitely is a wonderful place to live. That's why I don't want it to change. The thought that I shouldn't worry about the slow reversal of our right to not be scrutinised every minute is quite frankly obhorent.

[rastuscat]

Did I miss something? Do we have a permanent 4km/h tolerance now?

Yes you missed something.

HMVs and cars towing trailers have a 4 kmh tolerance. Cars and bikes have a 10 kmh tolerance, apart from outside schools, long weekends etc, when it drops to 4 kmh.

HMVs and cars towing trailers have a greater issue with stopping distances, which is why the tolerance is lower permanently.

Yeah, its all about revenue collecting blah blah blah.

[caspernz]

if it's such a "wonderful place to live" why are you so happy for the slow rollout of the oppression machine to make it not so???
I like it here thats why I DON'T want to see it become America or anything like it, yet these system keep taking us closer & closer

Meh, you need to get out more. Venture thru Western Europe, cameras everyfrickinwhere, armed Police and most sizeable public facilities you go into bags get searched and you step thru a metal detector as though you're about to board a plane.

The illusion of safety is quite an inconvenience to Joe Public, but oh heck, if it keeps most whackos at bay...all fine by me