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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    I find it amazing that a Maori academic, educated in a University using European ‎concepts of education in a language that is not his own, has the gall to claim, ‎using the threat of English law, that a style of art belongs to one people.‎
    Ngahuia Te Awekotuku is definitely not a man !!!

    There's a lot here I want to respond to and engage with .. have to wait .. I need to go to class right now .. students to teach 'n all ..
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Ngahuia Te Awekotuku is definitely not a man !!!
    are you claiming up close and personal experience?

    Shit I though t i was done with this thread

    But you are right the article even makes it clear the Prof is a female. Perhaps Oscar is showing gender bias, just a little bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Ngahuia Te Awekotuku is definitely not a man !!!

    There's a lot here I want to respond to and engage with .. have to wait .. I need to go to class right now .. students to teach 'n all ..
    My mistake.
    I stand by my comment though.

    Maori claiming exclusive rights to a style of tattooing is as stupid as the English asking Maori to pay to play rugby (a game which part of their culture).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    My mistake.
    I stand by my comment though.

    Maori claiming exclusive rights to a style of tattooing is as stupid as the English asking Maori to pay to play rugby (a game which part of their culture).
    I take your point and agree. I would, for the sake of the KB spirit, point out that at least the English did invent rugby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Now, here, ownership is a very cultural specific idea and western ideas of ownership are different to Maori ideas of it.
    I see this type comment reasonably frequently, but can't recall any specifics. Perhaps it's simply a lazy press not bothering to explain the differences, but it occurs to me no real discussion on such ownership can take place without the idea of owership (in this context) being understood.
    Obviously I am aware of the European concept of ownership in relationship to the seabed and foreshore being equal access and benefit for all.
    So, may I enquire please as the difference/s in the Maori concept of ownership?
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    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    My mistake.
    I stand by my comment though.

    Maori claiming exclusive rights to a style of tattooing is as stupid as the English asking Maori to pay to play rugby (a game which part of their culture).
    In this case I happen to agree with you. The art form is not exclusive to our culture ... and neither is that particular style.
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    are you claiming up close and personal experience?
    I've met her ... and like her ... but the chance of up close and personal? No show mate - she swings the other way ..
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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