All charges dropped

[Berries]

Police experts fill out forms at crashes. On those forms they note factors they believe contributed to the crash. In 5% of crashes "Exceeding the speed limit" is recorded as a factor.

Exceeding the speed limit isn't even on the form.

Even so, I'm not a fan of exceeding the speed limit on public roads, and I don't do it. However, like most motorists (AA data)....

You lost it right there. AA. Motorists. Quite.

BTW: The last ticket I wrote (and the first ticket for nearly a week) was for parking on the incorrect side of the road.

I'd shoot those bastards. Fuck that is so dangerous.

No gingas down your way then ?

[superman]

I'd shoot those bastards. Fuck that is so dangerous.

I had a guy parked on the wrong side of the road heading home one night. With his lights on, around a tight corner, they look like they are in your lane! Fuck me I pooped myself and skidded like a tosser only to find he was on the side of the road taking a fucking leak. Absolute retarded idiot.

[Hamel]

Have pondered a few schemes over the years, like how we could let qualified people drive at higher speeds. Too many curly issues for it to be practical. More practical just to set a limit, then deal with that.

Haven’t you just said how that could be achieved? By having better qualified drivers? So, for example, if I:

1) have completed a Level (whatever) Advanced Driving/Riding Course, and
2) I’m travelling in/on a appropriate vehicle which is appropriate for the conditions
3) I’m not infringing in any other way, (DIC, WOF, Rego, etc)
4) I’m travelling within a pre-prescribed range

...perhaps, if I was caught doing slightly over the speed limit, (say 10-20Kph) I might be l looked upon with a degree of leniency.

I have thought about this too and I even have made up a name for it, it’s called 'discretion'. It’s actually a real word, but you cops (reading this) will need to look it up because from recent experience (though I wasn’t driving) you obviously don’t know what it means, or have forgotten it in lieu of the world policy, as in “As you know sir we have a policy of zero tolerance on speed” from the officer hidden under the shadow of a single tree on a long straight road with no other vehicles on it in the middle of the Mackenzie Country.

But the first point would be the key issue, education.

Rastuscat, I applaud your input on this site (though I suspect, from what another cop said to me yesterday about KB, you’re possibly a Police PR mole) you seem far both too intelligent and reasonable to be a product of HP culture. But even if that’s not the case, yours would be a voice of reason in the wilderness. (If you are genuine, I apologise for being negative and discouraging.)

So (to the extent of your good reason and professional scope) deal with it. All I’m saying is, (if you're able to) do so in a fair and balanced manner; like the way that Jack presents his arguments.

[Road kill]

I would of used the word "Spy" but I guess "Mole" would do as well.
Like when did a cop ever offer a group of bikers a choice in how they'd prefer to be fucked with,,,,come on,, it took another cop to point this out to you

[scumdog]

I have thought about this too and I even have made up a name for it, it’s called 'discretion'. It’s actually a real word, but you cops (reading this) will need to look it up because from recent experience (though I wasn’t driving) you obviously don’t know what it means, .

Oooo, that smarts.

So 'you cops' don't know what it 'discretion' means eh?

Well 'you people' don't know how to drive safely.

So there.

Chill out dude, life sucks - so kill yourself or suck it up and move on.

Don't frickin' dwell on all the 'misjustices'/unfairness of life or the bitterness will eat you up.

[rastuscat]

I have thought about this too and I even have made up a name for it, it’s called 'discretion'.

You'd be surprised, I suspect, at how much discretion is shown in the real world. People get warnings every day from most Popos, they just don't tell the world about it. I see things every day while out patrolling that I could write tickets for, but don't. Sometimes it's because I've made a balanced judgement as to the nature and circumstances of the offence, sometimes it's coz theres a donut sale on.

But the first point would be the key issue, education.

Thing is and I've said it heaps, the ones who seek out education have already displayed a positive attitude to their safety, and that's 75% of the battle. Those who actually need the education are normally the last to seek it, as they already know it all or don't give a ****

Rastuscat, I applaud your input on this site (though I suspect, from what another cop said to me yesterday about KB, you’re possibly a Police PR mole) you seem far both too intelligent and reasonable to be a product of HP culture. But even if that’s not the case, yours would be a voice of reason in the wilderness. (If you are genuine, I apologise for being negative and discouraging.)

Aw shucks, I'm all goose pimply

I'm not a mole. I'm not clever enough for that. I've been on HP for the last while, but I'm back to the Broken City from next week.

There are more donut shops in town. Swoon.

[rastuscat]

Good for Jacko if the charges are dropped, as long as he can put his hand on his heart and say he didn't do it.

A plague on those who defend themselves from behind a cloak of lies, technicalities, denial and guilty knowledge.

Equally, a plague on those accusers who accuse in the knowledge of innocence.

Guess that's enough plagues for now.

Donuts.

[Latte]

Good for Jacko if the charges are dropped, as long as he can put his hand on his heart and say he didn't do it.

A plague on those who defend themselves from behind a cloak of lies, technicalities, denial and guilty knowledge.

Equally, a plague on those accusers who accuse in the knowledge of innocence.

Guess that's enough plagues for now.

Donuts.

No locusts or frogs?

Although, if the Donut plague has the ones with custard and icing sugar, then all is forgven.

[warewolf]

Thing is and I've said it heaps, the ones who seek out education have already displayed a positive attitude to their safety, and that's 75% of the battle.

Perhaps, but it doesn't help in avoiding tickets for trivial speeding infringements from Mr I've-got-a-quota-or-zero-tolerance-and-no-discretion Popo.

And to rub salt in to the wound, Popo will often ignore blatantly unsafe dangerous driving - as long as it's below the speed limit.

That's not exactly encouraging people to be good, safe drivers now is it? How to win friends and influence people... not.

PS my budget for education has been stolen by ACC, so there'll be no more of that.

[Nzpure]

I still don't understand why people get all upset and scream "Revenue Gatherer" everytime they get a speeding ticket...You were speeding, Its against the law.Suck it up. I personally have never had a speeding ticket and i do up v8s and turbo random cars like filthy old commies =D . Im not even classed as a ""responsible adult"" yet im 24 so im stil in the ""Young Dumb and full of cum"" bracket. My secret to lack of infringement is simple. Dont speed, You will get there in the end.
Demerits on rego fines is another thing.....Demerits point for failiure to pay a civic duty? Thats revenue gathering.......

[scumdog]

Demerits on rego fines is another thing.....Demerits point for failiure to pay a civic duty? Thats revenue gathering.......

I agree!

[superman]

Warnings hmm... never for speeding have I received warnings only ever tickets. Strategically placed coppers at the bottom of hills going from 100-50 zones etc... Though the cop looked less impressed when I told him I had coasted to 50 at the top of the hill (in the 100 zone) put the car in neutral and just happened to be going 65 at the bottom of the hill due to mr. gravity. Energy efficiency is not an excuse...

However I did get a warning when breaching my restricted license back when I was 15 by having a passenger in the car and it being past "curfew"... he told me he was looking for drunks. Good cunt that man.

[thepom]

"My secret to lack of infringement is simple. Dont speed, You will get there in the end."

Spoken like a true Harley rider....

I,m with you on the speeding and especially the regio demerits points.........this government really has it in for two wheelers ranging from the price to regio a moped to large capacity bikes..........

[ynot slow]

Never had a problem with speeding fines when caught,mainly as the times befor hadn't been caught,either right on tolerance as we passed,or the cop hadn't had his radar on,and that can be quite often,my radar detector in car didn't go off many times approaching a cop.

The problem with one ticket I did get was approaching cop doing 78km,radar went off and was pinged at 84km(70km area)from behind as we passed.When stopped almost 1.5km away and told that I was bemused,as to this day I believe he picked the car(s)behind me,and my vehicle was typical of student,i.e looked like no wof and reg type whuch it was.I said I heard my radar go off befor hitting the 70km zone and was slowing down,and no I didn't think I had sped as he went passed as detector still was beeping,why do that,and did he not see the car or three behind me,I certainly saw the guy catch me up in a ford maybe it was him.No use arguing so just sat bemused while he gave me the invoice for 84km,not 78km,which I sarcastically said he would do.That and the time I got another ticket for doing 85km in 70km area,but met a native cop with racial overtones,i.e heres ya ticket white man/honkey attitude are times my respect went towards most cops,and the racist cop showed his true colours off duty in our local bar to reaffirm my thoughts on him,loud mouth prat,think he left the area quickly according to a mate working with him told me,yep do have a couple of mates in the force and like many they're good buggers.

[sinfull]

The problem with one ticket I did get was approaching cop doing 78km,radar went off and was pinged at 84km(70km area)from behind as we passed.When stopped almost 1.5km away and told that I was bemused,as to this day I believe he picked the car(s)behind me,and my vehicle was typical of student,i.e looked like no wof and reg type whuch it was.I said I heard my radar go off befor hitting the 70km zone and was slowing down,and no I didn't think I had sped as he went passed as detector still was beeping,why do that,and did he not see the car or three behind me,I certainly saw the guy catch me up in a ford maybe it was him.No use arguing so just sat bemused while he gave me the invoice for 84km,not 78km,which I sarcastically said he would do.That and the time I got another ticket for doing 85km in 70km area,but met a native cop with racial overtones,i.e heres ya ticket white man/honkey attitude are times my respect went towards most cops,and the racist cop showed his true colours off duty in our local bar to reaffirm my thoughts on him,loud mouth prat,think he left the area quickly according to a mate working with him told me,yep do have a couple of mates in the force and like many they're good buggers.

You need to do sommit about that wall of text ya got going on there !!! I couldn't decipher that lot !