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    sucess - i managed to get the subframe bolt out - i started trying to weld something to it but i only had a shitty arc and old electrodes at home and nothing would stick, then i tried just putting some weld onto the head to get some heat into the bolt. still no luck though

    got out my grinder and decided to take the head of the bolt off (very carefully) so i could get rid ofthe tungsten carbide bit, and then continue drilling through. got the head off and the bloody thing just turned out with my hand.

    not sure if it was the heat from the weld, heat from grinding or vibration from grinding but whatever it was worked

    i smartly decided to quit while im ahead as the same method wont be able to work on teh axle adjuster bolt

    i think i'll go to the engineering shop tomorrow and buy a centre punch and a good quality screw extractor.

    oh, i dont have a gas set at home, and dont really want to buy one at the moment - is anyone familiar with the little butane torches (in the fire extinguisher size blue cylinders) that the fancy chefs use sometimes on tv - i was thinking one of those might be a good idea for some cheap heat in the shed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morg_nz View Post
    oh, i dont have a gas set at home, and dont really want to buy one at the moment - is anyone familiar with the little butane torches (in the fire extinguisher size blue cylinders) that the fancy chefs use sometimes on tv - i was thinking one of those might be a good idea for some cheap heat in the shed?
    I've used a few, came in handy when installing steering stem spacers (that fucker ain't coming off again!). The fire extinguisher size ones (as opposed to the pen ones) offer a good range of heat outputs, and could be worth having a go with I reckon; just be careful not to overdo it with aluminum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    I've used a few, came in handy when installing steering stem spacers (that fucker ain't coming off again!). The fire extinguisher size ones (as opposed to the pen ones) offer a good range of heat outputs, and could be worth having a go with I reckon; just be careful not to overdo it with aluminum.
    yeah, my idea with a butane torch was that i would have aflame small enough that i could put heat directly on the bolt, hopefully to loosen any shit stuck in the threads, rather than risk making the aluminum brittle

    other optoin would be aheat gun, but no bloody control

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Aluminium swingarm and steel bolt is a guaranteed recipe for corrosion. When you finally do get the bolts out, give them a liberal coating of copper-kote or similar when you put them back in.
    Yep, it seems that white powdery oxidisation accumulates as you start to wind the bolt out and 'wedges' in the threads, - often you can wind it back in fairly easily but when you try to undo it the bolt eventually winds up tight-as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morg_nz View Post
    yeah, my idea with a butane torch was that i would have aflame small enough that i could put heat directly on the bolt, hopefully to loosen any shit stuck in the threads, rather than risk making the aluminum brittle

    other optoin would be aheat gun, but no bloody control
    If there is gas in my flatmates one I can possibly bring it round and see if that does the trick?
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    Ive broken so many stud extractors in my life its not funny. I had enough of that shit-these days I get the mig out and build up a wee nipple off the broken stud-then get a nut that fits over the nipple and weld it-wait for it to cool completely and then have a go-work back and forth if u can. The best blowtorch out there is - is a Rothenburger- they put out so much heat and can be used upside down with no surging. Ive actually had parts hot enough to silver solder with a Rothenburger torch, and ideal for pre-heating small components prior to welding. Good luck with the rest of the job.
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    Had the same thing on my 03, ended up taking the swing arm off and putting it in a very large drill press. Managed to clamp it in place and drill out the stuck bolt then ran a tap down it. Was a mission.

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    Depends on what the offending bolt is in, but one way that has worked for me in the past is to fit a small cutting wheel to my angle grinder and cut a + into the head of the bolt. Then you can use a philips head on an impact driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morg_nz View Post
    sucess - i managed to get the subframe bolt out - i started trying to weld something to it but i only had a shitty arc and old electrodes at home and nothing would stick, then i tried just putting some weld onto the head to get some heat into the bolt. still no luck though

    got out my grinder and decided to take the head of the bolt off (very carefully) so i could get rid ofthe tungsten carbide bit, and then continue drilling through. got the head off and the bloody thing just turned out with my hand.

    not sure if it was the heat from the weld, heat from grinding or vibration from grinding but whatever it was worked

    i smartly decided to quit while im ahead as the same method wont be able to work on teh axle adjuster bolt

    i think i'll go to the engineering shop tomorrow and buy a centre punch and a good quality screw extractor.

    oh, i dont have a gas set at home, and dont really want to buy one at the moment - is anyone familiar with the little butane torches (in the fire extinguisher size blue cylinders) that the fancy chefs use sometimes on tv - i was thinking one of those might be a good idea for some cheap heat in the shed?
    I've had the exact same thing happen with a lawnmower blade - why is a complete mystery.
    If you get the plumbers' MAPP gas blue or yellow torches, the yellow ones burn hotter.
    That Rothenburger thingy looks bloody good too.

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