The speed limit poll

[caseye]

If this can be put down to a lowering of the Over The Speed LIMIT TOLERANCE.All well and good, I don't care about losing a few K's per hour over the speed limit.Which almost no one anywhere adheres to anyhow.
However I believe that while the lowering of an already illegal over the speed limit tolerance may have had a part to play, i like many others believe that it is in combination with absolute Shiet weather for the first two days of the weekend, Much higher fuel costs than most ordinary folk can afford and the promise of heavier/stricter Policing.
Did anyone actually get a ticket over the weekend for speeding?
Driving to the conditions is not just about road conditions, it;s also about knowing what to expect from Mr Plod.So if you got a ticket, good job, learn.
Cause this shit aint going away.

[Toaster]

I ride to the conditions...

You get my vote!

[Toaster]

....yet another inane poll that results in little more than keyboard/forehead damage.

Yep, and all these toast crumbs came flying out of the keyboard too.

[Banditbandit]

It's very easy to argue against that using basic statistics. To say it was the result of the tolerance change you'd need to show a significant change in the stats. That's using the statisctical definition of significant, ie a result that couldn't be explained by normal deviation.


This weekend could quite easily be the result of standard deviation. Plenty of weekends have zero road deaths throughout the year, granted not many of them are long weekends, but it's not beyond the realms of probabilities. Especially if you factor in things like the price of petrol, the economy (incl chch quake), and the weather.

Otherwise I could prove the tolerance has no effect because last years Labour weekend toll was unchanged from the year before. Therefore, it does nothing.


The only way to argue convincingly that the zero road toll was a result of the speed tolerance would be to measure over a decent sample and see if there is any significant variation. I'd suggest if you did that there would be little evidence.

While I probably agree with you - I meant it's hard to argue with the capitalist state's enforcement arm - 'cause "it worked" - and they won't accept any other position ...

[oneofsix]

While I probably agree with you - I meant it's hard to argue with the capitalist state's enforcement arm - 'cause "it worked" - and they won't accept any other position ...

+1 their bonus/position is based on the 'fact' that it worked. Now the British idea of necklacing the fixed speed cameras, thereby making them more expensive to use than the revenue they bring in .... ummm

[Maha]

Yep, and all these toast crumbs came flying out of the keyboard too.

Which brings me to my second point, wear safety glasses when viewing polls on KB.

[swbarnett]

Cause this shit aint going away.

Only because most of us have better things to worry about. I just hope they push it far enough in one step that the average apathetic Kiwi is motivated into action.

[thepom]

yeah but how many joe public,s got caught out by plod hiding behind rubbish skip,s and ticketing people coming in both directions in a 30 zone......safety not an issue just revenue gathering....

[scumdog]

yeah but how many joe public,s got caught out by plod hiding behind rubbish skip,s and ticketing people coming in both directions in a 30 zone......safety not an issue just revenue gathering....

Only for those silly or inattentive enough to get caught...

[Ender EnZed]

Only for those silly or inattentive enough to get caught...

My x-ray vision doesn't work through rubbish skips.

[Oblivion]

Which brings me to my second point, wear safety glasses when viewing polls on KB.

[neels]

Funniest thing I saw in the weekend was the driver in front of me hitting the picks to slow down from 60k to 45k when passing a stationery police car in a 70k zone.

So the publicity of the reduced tolerance increasing peoples paranoia about getting a ticket obviously worked, as for increasing peoples awareness of the speed limit and how fast they are actually going, not so much.

[Brett]

you sound as bad as the NZTA ad. What if the conditions get better? do you still want him to slow down?
If you ride to the conditions it means you adjust your speed, up or down, as the conditions change.

Speed kills don't ya know?

I personally never exceed 100kph. Ever. Never ever.

[jafar]

Speed kills don't ya know?

Speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stop that does it

[varminter]

[QUOTE=neels;1130083080]Funniest thing I saw in the weekend was the driver in front of me hitting the picks to slow down from 60k to 45k when passing a stationery police car in a 70k zone.

Yep, I've noticed that. It's as if drivers think that they get brownie points for going slower than the limit