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**barty5** · 15th June 2011, 15:39

Originally Posted by Reckless

Barty hates Ktm and if there was a jap brand in the market that fitted the bill I'd def be in for a look but their ain't, their loss for not making 2smokers! Ktm's gain. I did hear the 300exc is the biggest selling dirt bike in the world! But who knows????

Im aloud to hate them had 3 of them (2ts and 4s) that we have done complete rebuilds on and all of them where a complete pain in the arse to work on found them to be over engineered and people always complain about the number of parts /moving parts in a bikes motor ive found that KTMs tend to have more than japper in the way of parts and moving parts, which in the long term = more things to break/wear out.

**LankyBastard** · 15th June 2011, 16:06

How bout this? Price looks good.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-378920645.htm

**Reckless** · 15th June 2011, 16:24

Originally Posted by barty5

Im aloud to hate them had 3 of them (2ts and 4s) that we have done complete rebuilds on and all of them where a complete pain in the arse to work on found them to be over engineered and people always complain about the number of parts /moving parts in a bikes motor ive found that KTMs tend to have more than japper in the way of parts and moving parts, which in the long term = more things to break/wear out.

Absolutely your allowed your opinion my friend but personally I really really like the power valve design and its adjustability! More moving parts for sure, agreed, but the way the boost ports roll open as the power valve rolls open is simple and brilliant! Never touched mine except for cleaning on a strip down and I sure wish they had this back in the day I was kart racin for better power delivery!

More expensive on parts yes (if you don't buy from overseas) about a $100 on a piston kit incl pin and bearing?? That's once every one or two years.

And would I have anything other than an 200exc for 2stroke woods, mx and general dirt riding??? Well the answer to that is also yes as well!! But (except for gas gas) no one else makes anything???

I tried my best to make my previous post balanced and factually informative??
Each to their own but I felt lanky should at least have a reasoned contribution on both sides of the argument for his sake!

Originally Posted by LankyBastard

How bout this? Price looks good.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-378920645.htm

My 2c Lanky is if your into fast (or really fast through the woods) and a bit of mx buy an mx based bike, if your into enduro, woods & trial rides go for the exc? I could not make my Cr as good an enduro/trail bike as Ktm can?? An MX'er is always an Mx'er, especially a 2smoker, its that simple! Depends on your riding! Your call!

**ktm84mxc** · 15th June 2011, 16:25

A few of the RM250s have been known to destroy gear box's, be careful & get it checked out b4 buying.
Buy the best/newest bike u can afford eg 2010 ktm 200 exc 65hrs $8200 neg on trademe, u cud easily knock 5% off the price.

**LankyBastard** · 15th June 2011, 16:40

Thanks guys all this info is awesome!

The 2010 200exc looks great, but ideally I need to look at a bike here in Auckland, I like to get it checked out first.

As for best I can afford, well really I can afford a brand new KTM if i wanted to, but the missus will start complaining if i buy another new bike! And saving up for my second house, with a much bigger garage......

So ok lets bring on the search for a good deal on a newish ktm here in Auckland, Waikato, Northland etc!!!

**Reckless** · 15th June 2011, 16:51

Originally Posted by LankyBastard

Thanks guys all this info is awesome!

If your leaning towards enduro and the exc Lanky. You should ride the 300 as well, You might like the bigger but lazier grunt of the 300 ova the wang of the 200! And the electric start?? You'll probably love or hate either, although you can change them, its tricky?? LOL!!

OH Btw if your in Aucks ( or anyone else interested anywhere) and a facebooker join us on Auck Dirt riders! here https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk...253001973&ap=1

**LankyBastard** · 15th June 2011, 17:00

Originally Posted by Reckless

If your leaning towards enduro and the exc Lanky. You should ride the 300 as well, You might like the bigger but lazier grunt of the 300 ova the wang of the 200! And the electric start?? You'll probably love or hate either, although you can change them, its tricky?? LOL!!

OH Btw if your in Aucks ( or anyone else interested anywhere) and a facebooker join us on Auck Dirt riders! here https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk...253001973&ap=1

Request sent....

Found this tasty machine here in west auckland

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-383514818.htm

**Rupe** · 15th June 2011, 18:12

Originally Posted by LankyBastard

Request sent....

Found this tasty machine here in west auckland

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-383514818.htm

I think you need to go ride a few bikes to make your mind up.

A dr200 to a 300 2t is quite a jump. Don't buy into the fact that you need a big hp bike as you are far better to get something you can throw around, and gain confidence quickly on. Lots of corners off road!

have a look at this cross country race results to see that it doesn't really matter what size or make of bike is needed to ride well off road http://www.silverbullet.co.nz/CLUB/C...enior_Race.pdf

There is some good advice in this thread and some bad, you will need to read between the lines a bit!!

Also if you are a bit new to it all and don't want to buy a lemon, ask on here I'm sure a local guy might come look with you in trade for beer. Or might just be able to advise over the net.

Good luck.

**ktm84mxc** · 15th June 2011, 21:16

Yes Rupe is correct it is a sizable jump in performance & a 300 will demand a lot from a rider if ridden to its potential. But they are so easy to ride just let the motor do the work , wrong gear it will pull/lug u through, deep sand sit back & the torque will make it easy.
most extreme enduro riders choose a 2t simply because they can handle the abuse & b easily fixed on the trail. just ask Taddy or Chris.

**LankyBastard** · 15th June 2011, 22:20

This is not an easy decision! Other guys i ride with are suggesting something like a WR250F, rather than a 2t? I know it is a bit more power, but I have been riding for a few years now and can exercise restraint with the throttle! I am keen to get a bike to grow into, the DR200 was great to get me off the road and into the dirt, but now i do need more power. You all know what i mean

**ktm84mxc** · 15th June 2011, 22:57

Yep nothing beats a surge off power just a twist away, you obviously have been riding for a while either on road or off & know ur limits. The reason 300's r so popular is they r all things 4 every body, they make a average rider better & a good rider an expert.
Rest assured a 300 has far more limits than 98% off riders will tap into.
A 250f feels flat/linear in its power delivery by comparison.

**yokel** · 16th June 2011, 08:51

Originally Posted by LankyBastard

This is not an easy decision! Other guys i ride with are suggesting something like a WR250F, rather than a 2t? I know it is a bit more power, but I have been riding for a few years now and can exercise restraint with the throttle! I am keen to get a bike to grow into, the DR200 was great to get me off the road and into the dirt, but now i do need more power. You all know what i mean

Sounds like your mates dont want you to kick their arses!

**English Kiwi** · 16th June 2011, 10:44

Originally Posted by LankyBastard

Thanks guys all this info is awesome!

The 2010 200exc looks great, but ideally I need to look at a bike here in Auckland, I like to get it checked out first.

As for best I can afford, well really I can afford a brand new KTM if i wanted to, but the missus will start complaining if i buy another new bike! And saving up for my second house, with a much bigger garage......

So ok lets bring on the search for a good deal on a newish ktm here in Auckland, Waikato, Northland etc!!!

You're forgetting your Missus reads the forums!! hahaha