New Zealand bike prices WTF

[PeeJay]

You don't a flippin clue mate, when I was in New Zealand, I was indeed GST registered. I currently live and work in central Europe, importing classic bikes from Japan... I have more knowledge about this industry in my little finger that you have in your whole body.

Flippin Internet, now any tit with a keyboard is a bloody expert!

Directing me to an irrelevant IRD link does not change the fact that in NZ, GST is not refundable on vehicles imported for sale (if you bring in a container of bikes, then you are unable to "claim back" the GST.....

However, if you have a Japanese based company, and you export an IMPORTED bike (for example, a Ducati), then since this bike was subject to an IMPORT TARRIF, the you may actually claim a percentage of that Tarrif back form the Japanese government....

These are all things the internet does not teach you PeeJay.......

But, since YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THE REST OF US, Go on, import a container load of bikes, and the claim the GST back, then, post a scan of your GST return, and show me how wrong I am.

Well they dont call me Clueless Paul for nothing.
Being GST registered just makes it worse doesnt it. It has actually cost you money.
If you think IRD is irrelevant in matters GST you are a plonker of the highest order.
All you had to do is ask them, but no, you know better.
Considering your tirade against "the internet" thats where you probably got your gst information from instead of the IRD
Some internet expert said you couldnt claim the gst because its actually a tarrif, and you believed him
Over the last week or so I have asked 4 business acquaintances, not as expert as you mind, one brings in Harleys from the USA, another pickup trucks and Harleys from the USA, another Harleys from Japan, another Japanese and European sports type bikes from Japan.
To the simple question "do you claim the gst customs charges you on your imports?

YES YES YES YES YES YEAS YES YES YES YES YES

In case you missed it first time around?
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

I even asked IRD and guess what the guy there said

YES YES YES YES YES YEAS YES YES YES YES YES

you have done all that dough because you were too up yourself to ask IRD
If you couldnt sort GST out, one of the simplest and straightforward systems in the world, God only knows what a shambles you are making of the all the VAT, sales taxes, tarriffs etc in Europe.

And just to make it better for you
gst you pay isnt a tax deductible expense
This means that the actual cost to you is 30-50% higher than what you didnt claim.
So instead of just missing out on say $20,000 you kindly left with the IRD
it actually cost you up to $30000
$30000 in the hole because you think the IRD is irrelevant.

Maybe you should talk to your little finger a bit more
it probably knows more than the rest of your body put together
You keep telling yourself
"Importers pay GST on goods, and, this is non refundable.... in effect a duty"
"Vehicles Imported into NZ are not subject to a duty, they are however, subject G.S.T, which, in the case of imported vehicles, is not recoverable.... In effect, a duty"

If you say it to yourself often enough it will become the "truth" and you wont feel like such a fool.

I may be clueless but at least I know I am and I know enough to ask questions of the right people.
When we first decided to import a few vans , Customs, IRD, LTSA, were all on the list to talk to.
Made sense to me but then I'm not a 15 yr expert like you
You obviously dont need to do anything like that
Way below your pay grade

And I suppose you paid GST on your sales as well
Dagnabit Wilbur, enough to drive a man to drink

PS rather than me import a container load of bikes just to prove you are an idiot, why dont you ring IRD and prove it yourself?

BTW the IR375 you dismiss as irrelevant? IRD give you a copy when you become gst registerd.
Maybe if you read it back then you wouldnt be in the pickle you are in now

[Robert Taylor]

I think a little civility wouldnt go amiss.

[PeeJay]

I think a little civility wouldnt go amiss.

You are right of course.

To SS90
An unreserved apology for my uncivil and confrontational reply to your post.
I apologise for any offence you may have taken from any of my belittling comments directed at you.
I should have made my points and left it at that.

I think we can agree to disagree and leave it at that.

I hope your business is going well and you haven't been hit too hard by the financial ructions in that part of the world.
All the best
Regards
Paul

[SS90]

You are right of course.


Paul

Then prove me wrong.

Start importing container loads of bikes into New Zealand, then, post your GST return on here.

Show us all just How cheap it is to bring bikes into NZ.

Actually, you previously told me that " you had a small side business"...... "Importing second hand cars into New Zealand"....... So let's do away with all the nonsense, and PROVE it to me..........

[short-circuit]

Well my dad is bigger than any of your dads so suck ma nuts bitches