Aftermarket parts shopping?

[gammaguy]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

Few care,witness the number of people buying crap quality Chinese scooters and pitbikes because they are cheap

Its a downward spiral,and dont i know it,I left after all didnt I?

Sad but true.Most people can see its a matter of time before retailing motorcycle accessories in the traditional way in NZ goes the way of bottled milk and telegrams,but they are willing to sacrifice it for the short term gain of internet prices and selection.

some call it progress....

[Grant`]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

Hi Robert
First off maybe my first post is a bit mis-leading I don't just buy from overseas websites or not support local business' if they have what I want. The bike I own being a european model honestly does not have a lot of parts available here. The ones I have been able to buy through NZ dealerships I have.

The Exhaust, PCV, the hugger and the Leathers and some other stuff all came through NZ companies......

However somethings I have been unable to even source in NZ or it has been so ludicrously priced I am not going to shoot myself in the foot to support a NZ business and pay sometimes twice to three times as much, just to line some persons pocket in NZ.
I have plenty of people that would back me up, if I get good service I will continue to buy and I am a regular spender at a number of local shops for exactly that reason.

The rearseat, I have asked 2 to 3 companies over here already and no one stocks anything for my bike, I have found 1 company that sells a steering damper but its not what I am after.

To answer your other question, I work in a Bank (in the business division) so yes I know quite a bit about the diverse conditions NZ business' are going through and some of the challenges they face. But that still doesn't change my opinion of me going with out so somebody here can make higher mark ups off my hard earned cash.

[Grant`]

Time to buy a 2nd bike Grant...and that van. Trackbike
Then you can spend as much as you want...and not worry about reaching the end of the 'must-have' list :P

Mate have you got direct access to my brain...... If i get the promotion I am after well who knows, I could have that van and track bike sitting in the drive very soon!

[Maha]

You ommitted that lovely fitted sheepy...
I dont understand the expenditure expended on a disposible item thing.
It really pained me to fit a givi screen (the smallest avaliable) to the Honda...

[Grant`]

You ommitted that lovely fitted sheepy...
I dont understand the expenditure expended on a disposible item thing.
It really pained me to fit a givi screen (the smallest avaliable) to the Honda...

Your old and luxuries like screens and heated handgrips are allowed (i know you want some haha)

[Maha]

Your old and luxuries like screens and heated handgrips are allowed (i know you want some haha)

Really needed a screen, looked like I had Parkinsons at anything over 120...

[diablo]

to the first question YES!
addicted to ebay, especially with the US dollar so good for us at the moment..

[Swoop]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival?

Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

Hi Robert.
I recently went through an exercise just like this. I required an item that is represented in NZ via a wholesaler and retailer network and I deliberately went through a major NZ retailer to "keep the $$'s in NZ hands".

The retailer said "no worries, we can get that for you".
Unfortunately two days later I get a phonecall saying "we are unable to help you". No reasons why, no alternative options suggested.

The result is that a UK company got a sale and 5 days later the product is sitting at home. Purchased at a cheaper price as well.
It cost me an hour tracking the item down, after failing to locate in Japan and the USA.

The attitude and approach of NZ retailers leaves something to be desired.

[bogan]

You ommitted that lovely fitted sheepy...
I dont understand the expenditure expended on a disposible item thing.
It really pained me to fit a givi screen (the smallest avaliable) to the Honda...

But if you fit enough stuff, it goes from a disposable item to a personal item, fit even more and it's a work of art! I never understand people who keep buying newer bikes every few years, it's not like they are getting any better are they?

Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

From another point of view, it's a positive by-product to force businesses to still be competitive; after all, they are businesses, not charities.

[bogan]

Can't say that I have looked at modifying another type of rearset at all. Could be an option if prices don't improve for euro one.

If you're going from fixed to adjustable rearsets? you will probably need a 'jump plate' anyway, so easy to pick out some rear sets you like, then just get somebody to machine up a jump plate to fit them to the bike with a bunch of holes for adjustment.

[Maha]

But if you fit enough stuff, it goes from a disposable item to a personal item, fit even more and it's a work of art!

Like a pair of eight year old undies?...

[imdying]

Do other people have this problem or is it just a woman thing and that is possibly what I am turning into?

Naaah, I've spent more on shit for a brand new bike than it cost me to buy in the first place, and I'm still standing up to piss.

[imdying]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore?

No, I don't sell luxury item crap, only stuff that actually benefits the country.

[Digitdion]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

I certainly care about Businesses in New Zealand. I would love to support them all the time.Problem is, I have to look after myself first. When buying accessories or parts for my bike so many times its the same old thing. We can get that says the bike shop, but its ex japan or whatever, and its gunna cost mega dollars.

When in business I have to keep my costs down. So its not rocket science.I buy from overseas. Once again I would love to spend all my cash at shops here in NZ, But with the current business models out there(way to many links in the chain
taking there cut) I have no choice.

I have one question for all business owners out there. When you buy parts or stock or inventory, where does it come from? And do you buy parts or stock from a supplier with the best deal?(thats if you have a choice)

One thing that I am not sure if its been said, its not all bad someone spending there money overseas.For me a big bonus is saving cash. The money that I save, I can spend here.

I personally feel with free trade and the internet etc etc, things have changed so much that its time to allow businesses to do the same as what I can do. But thats a horrible twisted web.

Until then, I will try to run my personal empire as best I can. Just like a bike shop. Sourcing bits and pieces as cheap and efficient as I can.

[boman]

It has been said before. We all would like to support NZ businesses, and we do. But when you can get a product landed on your front door, in less time and for less money than buying off a NZ agent, then we tend to shop off shore. I myself am waiting for a part to arrive. It has been a month now, and if I had bought the part off E-Bay, then I would already have it. The reason I am waiting, is that the part was apart of the sale, so is "costing" me nothing.

Generally the parts purchased, by me anyway, are parts that are cosmetic. They will not need servicing, so need no warranty.