Aftermarket parts shopping?

[Grant`]

I think myself and by the looks of it a lot of other people would love to support NZ business' more but they make it hard for themselves either becuase they are lazy or are hamstringed by something.

There is plenty of aftermarket companies through E-Bay etc that people could always try and work a deal of some sort to become a distributor for them over here. I would happily pay a few dollars more for something but not stupid prices.

[Ram Solutions]

I have one question for all business owners out there. When you buy parts or stock or inventory, where does it come from? And do you buy parts or stock from a supplier with the best deal?(thats if you have a choice)

Until then, I will try to run my personal empire as best I can. Just like a bike shop. Sourcing bits and pieces as cheap and efficient as I can.[/QUOTE]

We buy stock straight from the manufacturer and their best deal is 1% discount if you buy 500 units of the one item. ..... Plus.... you have the privilege of paying up front, and then waiting a mandatory 4 weeks while they sit on the order before sending it out. ......And... raping you for freight. Landing cost of bringing an item into NZ can in some cases cost as much as the item itself..!

[Ram Solutions]

I think myself and by the looks of it a lot of other people would love to support NZ business' more but they make it hard for themselves either becuase they are lazy or are hamstringed by something.

There is plenty of aftermarket companies through E-Bay etc that people could always try and work a deal of some sort to become a distributor for them over here. I would happily pay a few dollars more for something but not stupid prices.

.....try hamstrung...!

Also consider a lot of those ebay retailers operate as agents only and arrange drop shipments without even touching the goods. Anyone considering competing with an ebay retailer by becoming a distributor in NZ doesn't make sense,... as the local expectation (hence this thread) is that YOU carry the goods such that you can service your customer efficiently and CHEAPLY...!!? Bit of an oxymoron isn't it? You now have the same landing and holding costs that every other NZ importer/ distributor has......

I can hear it now......" Gee, that new NZ distributor seems really expensive..... I wonder if I can buy it cheaper overseas...?

[Grant`]

.....try hamstrung...!

Also consider a lot of those ebay retailers operate as agents only and arrange drop shipments without even touching the goods. Anyone considering competing with an ebay retailer by becoming a distributor in NZ doesn't make sense,... as the local expectation (hence this thread) is that YOU carry the goods such that you can service your customer efficiently and CHEAPLY...!!? Bit of an oxymoron isn't it? You now have the same landing and holding costs that every other NZ importer/ distributor has......

I can hear it now......" Gee, that new NZ distributor seems really expensive..... I wonder if I can buy it cheaper overseas...?

The thing is, I don't mind paying a little bit more and knowing that I have a NZ based business to deal with I would happily do that. I have no hassle of goods going missing or dodgy dealers (I hope) etc. But when I am paying upwards of $100 more for something I can source from overseas which is quite possibly coming from the same place the NZ distributor is getting it why should I pay that price.

Local Honda dealer for a genuine seat cowl for my bike $700 a genuine seat cowl from honda in the UK shipped and landed to my door will cost me less than $350. Why would anybody in there right mind buy the local one? If that local Honda dealer could do the work and ship in that seat cowl and sell it to me for $375-$400 sure I would buy it as the covenience out ways the slight price increase, when price out weights convenience you lose customers everytime.

People are to concerned about there money and how much they are paying for it and if business' can't adjust with that then others will spring up that can adapt with those times.

That is 1 example there is better examples I am sure and I know Honda already has a bad rep for inflated prices over here but hopefully you can see what I am trying to get at.

[imdying]

Local Honda dealer for a genuine seat cowl for my bike $700 a genuine seat cowl from honda in the UK shipped and landed to my door will cost me less than $350.

Shop around, the one on the RR is NZD$630 and USD$163 delivered. Fuck you Blue Wing Honda

[nodrog:Me]

The only thing I buy Locally is my petrol, and thats only because I havent figured out how to frieght it here yet.

[The Pastor]

Is the business that you are employed in adversely affected by people bypassing it and buying offshore? Thereby threatening its ability to employ staff or even its survival? Where do all these people go?
I believe that with nearly all consumer products ( not only motorcycle gear ) this has reached epidemic proportions, thats without anyone emotively chiming in that ''goods and services are too expensive in NZ'' The reasons are far more complex and I have no wish to get into a slanging match with any keyboard jockies with a belligerent mentality.
Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

I (generally) don't care about kiwi business and would rather grab a product from overseas than pay higher price in nz.

Probs would still get any susspension parts through you tho, as they require someone with skill (which you undoubtedly have in abundance) to set up and use properly. I don't mind paying for that premium, IF I get good service.

But when it comes to retail products that require no service such as helmets, levers, lights, tyres, parts etc etc, why should i pay more, 9 times out of 10 you get shafted with shit service, shit price, shit product.

[ac3_snow]

I would probably be 30/70, overseas/NZ. I had great service from a bike shop here yesterday, bits I wanted were cheaper than anywhere else , NZ or afar, and turned up less than 24 hrs later!

[Ram Solutions]

The thing is, I don't mind paying a little bit more and knowing that I have a NZ based business to deal with I would happily do that. I have no hassle of goods going missing or dodgy dealers (I hope) etc. But when I am paying upwards of $100 more for something I can source from overseas which is quite possibly coming from the same place the NZ distributor is getting it why should I pay that price.

Local Honda dealer for a genuine seat cowl for my bike $700 a genuine seat cowl from honda in the UK shipped and landed to my door will cost me less than $350. Why would anybody in there right mind buy the local one? If that local Honda dealer could do the work and ship in that seat cowl and sell it to me for $375-$400 sure I would buy it as the covenience out ways the slight price increase, when price out weights convenience you lose customers everytime.

People are to concerned about there money and how much they are paying for it and if business' can't adjust with that then others will spring up that can adapt with those times.

That is 1 example there is better examples I am sure and I know Honda already has a bad rep for inflated prices over here but hopefully you can see what I am trying to get at.

....have no beef with you there! Sometimes one has to look at whether the distribution chain is a bit long.....

also you are the only one who can put a price on service...! It's only natural for customers to shop around and decide what suits their needs.

[White trash]

Id just like to hear if anyone actually cares about this negative by-product.

Hi Robert, yes I care. Greatly. Like you, I rely on people buying motorcycles and their parts off me. Here's a scenario for you from the other side of the coin that has really pissed me off today.

Yamaha have recently released the new R-15 in New Zealand. Sports commuter, low cost, modern styling, fun to ride. In India, this is THE (affordable) bike to own. The accessories market for them is MASSIVE, one of the major players with the best gear being Daytex, a subsidary of Daytona. The range of gear they supply is simply astounding. I have my parts guys enquire into the sort of stuff that the target market of these machines is going to be interested in. Mufflers, rear sets, wave rotors etc etc.

Now. There are two New Zealand distributors for Daytona. Neither have any of the gear available and no references for the stuff, which is understandable. To get a P&A, we need to supply the part numbers, which Daytona will not supply us because we're not the distributor and they're very reluctant to deal with us round eyes. Ask the distributors if they'll do the investigation, not interested.

So, in order for us to hot up our demo or a customers bike, we have no choice but to buy off a dealer, in India or Malaysia because the distributor simply isn't interested in looking at it. This raises two other points.

We'll get the shit far cheaper than if we COULD buy it from the NZ agent.

The second point, and one that's potentially a real fucker, is both of the NZ agents can get their knickers in a twist and cry "You're parallel importing our shit, we're no longer supplying you our other products."

My customers want bling for their bikes, we want to personalise our demo.

What are your suggestions given the above scenario?

[jaffaonajappa]

Hi Robert, ...........
What are your suggestions given the above scenario?

God, I hope he doesnt recommend you move to Mumbai.

[jaffaonajappa]

Mate have you got direct access to my brain...... If i

Yes.




But also....I remembered you talking about wanting to do this at the Newbies ride / Mangawai heads pub a few weeks ago, lol.

Good luck on the promotion front!

[Digitdion]

I have one question for all business owners out there. When you buy parts or stock or inventory, where does it come from? And do you buy parts or stock from a supplier with the best deal?(thats if you have a choice)

Until then, I will try to run my personal empire as best I can. Just like a bike shop. Sourcing bits and pieces as cheap and efficient as I can.

We buy stock straight from the manufacturer and their best deal is 1% discount if you buy 500 units of the one item. ..... Plus.... you have the privilege of paying up front, and then waiting a mandatory 4 weeks while they sit on the order before sending it out. ......And... raping you for freight. Landing cost of bringing an item into NZ can in some cases cost as much as the item itself..![/QUOTE]

I take it the manufacturer is oversea's

[Grant`]

Yes.




But also....I remembered you talking about wanting to do this at the Newbies ride / Mangawai heads pub a few weeks ago, lol.

Good luck on the promotion front!

Oh yeah, should of thought about that!

[cheshirecat]

So does the choice come down to supply the customer or support the importer and is it feasible to parallel import? The NZ dollar is super strong at the mo (london feels almost reasonable!
I mean if you build a strong customer base and keep moving according to exchange rates and suppliers with a good web shop as well that cust base could become very loyal. I was quoted over $200 for one set of front disc pads albiet QEM, they didn't price non QEM, by a dealer and then found on Ebay 35 pounds shipped for both front sets and rear (ceramic carbon 5 star feedback rating) - as much as I like supporting local bike shops there is a limit.

Hi Robert, yes I care. Greatly. Like you, I rely on people buying motorcycles and their parts off me. Here's a scenario for you from the other side of the coin that has really pissed me off today.

What are your suggestions given the above scenario?