ACC-cuts-due-to-surplus

[Banditbandit]

I might just open a poll with 2 simple questions
How many bikes do you own?
How many are on hold or expired?

Wonder what the result will be................

I have two - both over 600cc and both rego-ed ...

[oneofsix]

I have two - both over 600cc and both rego-ed ...

sneaky you just managed to put in a third, relevant, question. Guess StoneY's poll now needs 3 questions

BTW 1 over 600 and rego'd

[davereid]

An issue I have recently spoken to TV1 about
The application of demerit points to a Tax revenue Collection issue is not IMO a good policy

Why should ones license be placed at risk over a tax issue?
Demerits have until recently only been reserved for safety related issues, where is the danger involved in someone not paying a tax fee?

Also, I thought this was not yet in effect?

I asked the minister about it. 90% of unpaid fines are traffic fines, they simply don't get paid. So after consultation with the AA, he went for demerits. From 1 May apparently.

[StoneY]

I asked the minister about it. 90% of unpaid fines are traffic fines, they simply don't get paid. So after consultation with the AA, he went for demerits. From 1 May apparently.

It was not consultation with the AA that led to this, in fact I have seen documents showing that to be completely non factual
Will advise you on this thread when the show is going to air so you can judge for yourself

Edit: fact is it was Police who suggested demerits as a possible deterrent....

[Winston001]

I asked the minister about it. 90% of unpaid fines are traffic fines, they simply don't get paid. So after consultation with the AA, he went for demerits. From 1 May apparently.

Whatever the consultation the point is that increased demerits answers the critics who see speed enforcement as only revenue gathering.

Frankly I don't like either option and would rather see a higher speed limit.

[davereid]

It was not consultation with the AA that led to this, in fact I have seen documents showing that to be completely non factual
Will advise you on this thread when the show is going to air so you can judge for yourself

Edit: fact is it was Police who suggested demerits as a possible deterrent....

It may have been the police who suggested it.

But AA were consulted and supported it.

I have a letter from the Minister saying

"One of the innovations contained in the regulations related to demerit points for vehicle licensing offences, and my officials consulted the automobile association on that issue as the principle broad based motoring organisation. The AA was comfortable with the changes noting that it had submitted recently on transport legislation in support of a greater emphasis on demerit points"

[StoneY]

It may have been the police who suggested it.

But AA were consulted and supported it.

I have a letter from the Minister saying

"One of the innovations contained in the regulations related to demerit points for vehicle licensing offences, and my officials consulted the automobile association on that issue as the principle broad based motoring organisation. The AA was comfortable with the changes noting that it had submitted recently on transport legislation in support of a greater emphasis on demerit points"

Not what the OIA documents I have read state matey, but you know how politicians operate...smoke n mirrors

[davereid]

Yeah, it looks like my OIA gives different reasons to yours, which is unsurprising. I have some others which contradict themselves as well, which I intend using at a later time when I sense an opportunity lol.

[SPman]

5 bikes - all regoed, even with 2 under rebuild! Farkin hell, that's .....$1,100 in regoes!
Oh - that's right - it's only $215 a bike over here..........

[StoneY]

Yeah, it looks like my OIA gives different reasons to yours, which is unsurprising. I have some others which contradict themselves as well, which I intend using at a later time when I sense an opportunity lol.

when that opportunity raises its head Dave let the fed secretary know we can always get right behind the opportunity and make a combined assault on Fortress Beehive..........

[akkadian]

3 bikes all regoed. Two over 600, one under. Won't be renewing them all next time around. Will just choose one to ride for three months and put the rest on hold.

[davereid]

when that opportunity raises its head Dave let the fed secretary know we can always get right behind the opportunity and make a combined assault on Fortress Beehive..........

Look at my other thread.

I have OIA answers that show if we don't exercise the right to opt out of our details being available on the motor vehicle register, and we don't tell them we want opt out to mean opt out, then Wilson Parking, Freds Auto Mart, Veda, Bills finance company, and the fellow that wants your Ducatti or a fight with your bad driving girl friend will get your personal details handed to them on a plate.

If you do nothing else tonight, opt out :

https://transact.nzta.govt.nz/transa...ess/entry.aspx

and email them and let them know you want opt out to mean my personal information is not to be sold, shared, or divulged. info@nzta.govt.nz

[Nzpure]

I have 2 bikes a 250 and a 1200 both are on hold.
So this $150 + 20 demerits has this come in or is coming in or what?
If they start doing that, thats bullshit demerits are ment to be for breaking road rules and shit not traffic fines soon you'll get 10 demerits for parking too long in a f^&kin parking spot......

[StoneY]

I have 2 bikes a 250 and a 1200 both are on hold.
So this $150 + 20 demerits has this come in or is coming in or what?
If they start doing that, thats bullshit demerits are ment to be for breaking road rules and shit not traffic fines soon you'll get 10 demerits for parking too long in a f^&kin parking spot......

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Its already in effect due from May 1st

And I agree totally with what you said
So does BRONZ

Problem is getting this reversed will be nigh on impossible under sitting govt........

[davereid]

Stoney asked me to publish a link to my thread on losing the opt-out.

Resources here : http://nzprivacy.wordpress.com/2011/...ithout-action/

Original thread here : http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ithout-support