Mike, are you Mikey?

**FJRider** · 22nd July 2011, 19:32

Originally Posted by StoneY

Well dude 300+ witnesses, all long term experienced riders disagree with you
I would bet if you were in those first 5 bikes your undies woulkd need changing and ya bike need a paint job too....
I was there man and there was NO way you or anyone could blame the riders for this incident

Interesting you say what you did Pete, the lighter bikes skipped and slid a bit but the poor bastards on the HD's were off the road before they even knew they had hit the gravel.........guess it was just too sudden a surface change to accommodate for right on the crest of the hill
As HD no1 shot sideways off the road 300+ bikes following started braking in ernest
The fact NO ONE collided with another bike in that MASS emergency stop, says 99% of that ride pack were on the ball IMO

If you FOLLOW an HD ... expect problems ... If THEY aren't aware of NEW SEAL issues ... that's YOUR problem ... (if you are following them ...)

IF THEY CAN'T TELL WHAT IS NEW SEAL ... ???

YOU judge what is ahead of YOU .. Personal responsibility is paramount ... If YOU RELY ON OTHERS to ensure the road ahead is safe ... FOR YOU ... to ride on ... YOUR PROBLEM ...

Road condition issues ... contact the LOCAL authorities .. and make a complaint ..

Perhaps that LAST 1 % ... needs to up their game ... and GET ... "On the ball"

**Grasshopperus** · 22nd July 2011, 19:56

I am Mikey-acus

**Pussy** · 22nd July 2011, 20:38

Here's a suggestion.
Instead of always blaming someone/something else and immersing in the "victim" mentality..... why not take a bit of personal responsibility?.....

**Kickaha** · 22nd July 2011, 22:35

Originally Posted by Pussy

Here's a suggestion.
Instead of always blaming someone/something else and immersing in the "victim" mentality..... why not take a bit of personal responsibility?.....

I haven't laughed so much for years, that is so last century

**Pussy** · 22nd July 2011, 22:44

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I haven't laughed so much for years, that is so last century

Shit! Sorry, Kick!

How's this? Wah wah... it's okay to let your confidence exceed your competence. And if you pay the price for it, it's someone/something else's fault!!

**scumdog** · 23rd July 2011, 08:16

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

seems like they were being heroes trying to keep up with two bikes that had better handling capablities than them.
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Ah, the 'KB Way' (tm)

Judgement based on supposition, guesswork and prejudice!!

Well done, an A+ pass!

**scumdog** · 23rd July 2011, 08:18

Originally Posted by Pussy

Here's a suggestion.
Instead of always blaming someone/something else and immersing in the "victim" mentality..... why not take a bit of personal responsibility?.....

Get with the programme dude - this IS the 21st century

Personal responsibility (sadly) went the way of rod brakes, Brycreem and disco clubs...

**Berries** · 23rd July 2011, 08:20

Well that certainly kicked the thread back in to life. In the end it doesn't matter how good a rider you are, how observant you are or how honed your spidey senses are, there are things out there that can get you. Unsigned roadworks can be one, and you'd definitely want to go after the contractor on that. A mate of mine nearly died after hitting a black bull that was hiding in a dip on SH1 at night. If he had been doing 30km/h he may have seen it, but when your lights are pointing in to the sky what chance is there? Couple of nights a go there was a pallet in the middle of the main road out of Dunedin. Nowhere for a car to go except over it sending splinters and nails airborne in to the vehicles behind. A crash causing a line of stationary cars hidden around a 55km/h bend that you know you can take at 110. They're all out there, and sometimes there is nothing you can do about it.

Yeah, you could take the 55km/h corner at such a speed that you can stop in the length of lane that is visible, but who honestly travels like that ?