I like how you didn't say "I drive a 4X4", 'cause we all know that's crap, eh J?Originally Posted by TriumphMan
Tearing Choppa a new A'Hole
I like how you didn't say "I drive a 4X4", 'cause we all know that's crap, eh J?
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Tearing Choppa a new A'Hole
After the kiddies go home mate. WT as a dad, is a hell of a lot less fun than WT the piss head.
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L-Plate Rider
Well, despite being relagated out of the garage onto the road by the bike you sold me, I still do drive it, but probably not as much since you started selling me bikes, hey, I might actually get to knock another 5kms to the filling station and back this week in the 4x4!I like how you didn't say "I drive a 4X4", 'cause we all know that's crap, eh J?
It's a Rocket
Loud and Uncouth
During this weekends ride I saw quite a few 4x4s coming towards me, the lean angle of some of them in the twisty bits was quite alarming, especially considering there was a good liklihood of black ice.
Also amuses me to see so many 4x4s with road tyres on them - obviously the tar seal where they drive is firm enough they won't get bogged!!!
Most of the serious off-road types/those with a REAL need drive o.k., it's just those that treat the 4x4 as if it is just a big car that worry me- scarey!!
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Forum whore
Mr Jackrat summed it up , somewhere. You have to drive them like a truck. Not a car. Maybe different for the real poncy ones, the RAV4 things, they are sort of cars with pretentious extras. But the real 4x4s are trucks. I even call mine the truck. The problems is that Wannabe Wally and Soccer Mom buy them (for totally stupid reasons) and expect them just to be a big fancy car - cos they don't know how to drive anything else.
what i'd like to know is, if the bus driver had enough time to flash his/her lights, wouldn't they have had enough time to actually take some POSITIVE action, instead of losing control in what looks like a perfectly avoidable crash. hell even shunting the volvo in the arse would have been a better outcome. it's a good 4 seconds before the bus starts swerving.
i've had a few 4x4's, mostly when i was multisport racing - perfect for 4 bikes, kayaks, tents, riverbeds, forests, 7 kids etc. since then i've had 6 cylinder cars/wagons. i'm only sticking with the diamante now as it's cheap (on LPG), but if i had a choice i'd be in one of those commodore V8 4x4 wagons, only cause i think they are outrageous! missus said 'those new discovery's are nice'. hmmm - nice price too
in the meantime i'll drive the diamante like a 4x4.....and hang bikes/kayaks/surfboards off the roof/towbar, or use the trailer
Hardcore Biker
I drive a 4x4 - the only reason being it takes heaps of gear and tows my bike trailer with 2 or 3 bikes no problems. When I was a motocrosser it was good for not getting stuck too in muddy paddocks. I can chain down my tool chest in the back of it too. I could've gotten away with a commodore station wagon space requirements wise, but I like how high 4x4s are for getting in and out of, including loading heavy tool chests into them without breaking your back etc. Also it's a Diesel and you can't get a car diesel wagon (unless you wanna spend $80k on a Mercedes Benz or Audi or VW)....seen the price of petrol recently?
Plus they're big and comfortable for sitting in Dorkland traffic going nowhere.
Sure they handle like shit but I don't need a fast car and a fast bike on the road....
Immature and proud of it.
Ain't it great. Everyone, barring the owners, accept that they're not like cars to drive. Yet anyone with a car licence can drive them.
Maybe a class 1a licence will discourage people from buying these things.
BTW Although I hate Remuera taxis, I owned a couple a few years ago. Biggest pieces of crap I've ever had for road use, but great fun off-road. Perhaps owners should be required to show at least 30% off-road use when they go to re-licence them each year.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Hardcore Biker
I'm an owner I was stating that I accept they don't handle the same. What is it with the majority being blamed for the minorities' errors in this country?
Anyway re the licence thing - not a bad idea - especially for some of those soccer mums out there...but I reckon a worse problem is a 15 year old being allowed to drive a WRX or Holden V8. Perhaps any car over 150KW needs a 1b licence.....
Immature and proud of it.
Sorry, you're the exception that proves the rule
It's always good to generalise, you can condemn a whole section of the population with a few words as possible.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Forum whore
There appears to be a missing gene in todays society,OSH have noticed this and stepped in to protect everyone incase they have the missing gene.Kinda hard to know you aren't driving something a little different - first thing my younger daughter said after she drove the Pajero for the first time was ''Hey,this thing handles terrible! It leans over real far in corners!'' If an 18 yr old girl can see she has to alter her driving to compensate for driving a 4X4,why can't the rest of the driving population? I think it would be an insult to make her go on a special course just to drive my Pajero,she was mature and experianced enough at 18 to cope....why can't other people handle something a little different....it's how we learn,a new experiance.
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Hardcore Biker
That's what I mean. We seem hell-bent on penalising the majority for the minorities' actions. See they want now to have only certified builders even modify the handle on your kitchen cupboard? Another rule about to be brought in becuase of one idiot putting a knife blade on his kitchen cupboard door as a handle. Punish 4 million for 1 person's idiotic actions. Thats the way to go yeah.
L-Plate Rider
Two exceptions dude, I drive a 4x4 too and drive it like a truck, not a car. A 4x4 license would be a good ideaSorry, you're the exception that proves the rule
It's always good to generalise, you can condemn a whole section of the population with a few words as possible.
It's a Rocket
Mobile Oil Stain
Ahemm old chap,I belive I said something about that a far while ago.Sorry, you're the exception that proves the rule
It's always good to generalise, you can condemn a whole section of the population with a few words as possible.
But your right it is good to genralise,works most of the time anyway
I've had three 4x4s an a couple of other things I used for the same purpose,but the 4X4s were just a lot better at it.
I sold my Patrol resently because I didn't need it anymore.Funny thing is,the Mrs who never really liked it "reckoned it was just a big ugly truck"
now wants another one.She has a RAV4 an has found out that even though it looks good "to her" it's even more unstable than the Patrol was an can't tow a double horse float.An yeah she would of tryed had I not stopped her.
A seprate licence class would be a good idea but for the fact people would just get it an carry on as usual.I mean does having a standard drivers licence stop some people from driving their cars like prats ?
Ya' really can't win either way.
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