Any bikes that a learner should avoid?

[tigertim20]

Rubbish.
But if one was to get a two stoke it would be better to get a tidy lower KM one.

do you not read? did you miss the word 'probably'? while some people have experience with bikes or mechanical issues etc previously, not all do. if someones looking for their very first ever experience with bikes, avoiding a 2 stroke will generally provide a slighly easier learning curve, slightly lower expenses, and slightly less maintenance, so yes, in that sense, its PROBABLY best to avoid them as a FIRST bike.

cough cough what was the first bike you bought your wife ?

lol yeah, that was one of the best lies I ever told "Hey babe, I bought a new bike, and 'its a bike for you' babe"

[James Deuce]

2nd hand learner bikes. They're all ridden by learners who couldn't keep a goldfish alive, let alone a motorcycle roadworthy.

[ducatilover]

2nd hand learner bikes. They're all ridden by learners who couldn't keep a goldfish alive, let alone a motorcycle roadworthy.

How did I keep my VT250 Spada alive for 130,000km of me riding it?

[James Deuce]

How did I keep my VT250 Spada alive for 130,000km of me riding it?

You're a born biker mate. You need to work on your sarcasm to become a born sarcastic biker though.

[FJRider]

How did I keep my VT250 Spada alive for 130,000km of me riding it?

ALL your friends were behind you ...

[DrunkenMistake]

ALL your friends were behind you ...

Well it was a Honda,
and Honda's love it from behind

[ducatilover]

You're a born biker mate. You need to work on your sarcasm to become a born sarcastic biker though.

I do think we need a sarcasm font

ALL your friends were behind you ...

Three Hondas.....I'm a huge bum pirate now.

[koba]

do you not read? did you miss the word 'probably'? while some people have experience with bikes or mechanical issues etc previously, not all do. if someones looking for their very first ever experience with bikes, avoiding a 2 stroke will generally provide a slighly easier learning curve, slightly lower expenses, and slightly less maintenance, so yes, in that sense, its PROBABLY best to avoid them as a FIRST bike.

Probably sounds less than convincing.

[James Deuce]

do you not read? did you miss the word 'probably'? while some people have experience with bikes or mechanical issues etc previously, not all do. if someones looking for their very first ever experience with bikes, avoiding a 2 stroke will generally provide a slighly easier learning curve, slightly lower expenses, and slightly less maintenance, so yes, in that sense, its PROBABLY best to avoid them as a FIRST bike.

Err, rubbish. A top end rebuild on a two stroke costs less and is much simpler than a valve check on a GN250. Not that anyone EVER does a valve check on a GN250, cos most of the owners are micro-cephalic barbarians.

I think it should be compulsory for learner bikes to be two strokes, but the knee-jerk eco-weenies have buggered that.

[Matariki]

I'd avoid bikes that look like this

Are you looking for a bike or just making a list of bikes to avoid to pass the time?

If you're looking why not let everyone know what sort of riding your doing and ask for bike suggestions. Someone will point you in the right general direction.

Just looking to pass the time, I can't ride at the moment with a broken leg and even more of a broken bike. So I'm looking to buy a new one, but first I wanted to do some research.

[sinfull]

a broken leg and even more of a broken bike. .

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[Matariki]

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I'm not sure if that set up would work against a mobility van failing to give way and hitting you head on.

[YellowDog]

Just looking to pass the time, I can't ride at the moment with a broken leg and even more of a broken bike. So I'm looking to buy a new one, but first I wanted to do some research.

I do hope you have found this thread humorous

FWIW - The Scorpion is IMO the best learner option, as it is more like a real bike than the others (just IMO).

Hope the leg heals up soon

Oh.... and avoid bank account damaging bikes like this:

[DanielSumi]

Had a bandit 250 in the first month, pain in the ass to commute (acceleration non-existent under 8k rpm. Felt like a hooligan on every light/stop).

Bought a VTR 250 in the second month (awesome all around. only cons imo, to short for me and VERY expensive 2nd hand bike.)

Got a DT230. Best thing since sliced bread (if you are restricted that is). At LEAST 200km with 11l and 1l of oil every 500km so it's a cheap commuter. Maintenance is now and then, not that bad really and you can do most of it with some basic tools.
Easiest thing to ride, nimble, good acceleration, great brakes and the best part of it:
Keeps cages miles away from me since its burnt mixture smells like .
Oh and it can do some occasional trail ride.

Bad points i can think of: sounds like a chainsaw and doesn't have the looks. Did I mention that i smells like burnt oil and petrol now? Won't get you any chicks. Heaps of fun tho.

[ducatilover]

Your DT230 uses as much petrol as my 600 .

The reason most people say steer away from two strokes is non powervalve ones have ugly power delivery. In general they have a higher need for major maintenance.