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    Quote Originally Posted by ktm84mxc View Post
    Oops must not offend the Train-spotters among us eh CS ?
    The only colours I've seen on a CB400f are blue & red in NZ, though there was a poster with Pele and a yellow model.
    You're just lucky I got here before Hitcher, then you would have been in trouble!
    I've got a vague recollection of seeing a yellow one, but then again I might be thinking of a CB750F1

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    Ah, thanks JD....the problem with unquoted replies (especially when you've got a head cold!) lol
    That makes more sense, I thought Paul in NZ was up to the play on model info

    Still the 550 does look nice in black I must say.

    As you were....
    Its probably nicer in black than stock BUT the big bucks demand stock ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktm84mxc View Post
    Oops must not offend the Train-spotters among us eh CS ?
    The only colours I've seen on a CB400f are blue & red in NZ, though there was a poster with Pele and a yellow model.
    Blue and Red were (I think) the first model. Later ones had a few minor differences but visually it was the pillion pegs were on a sub frame and not the swing arm. Blue was dropped, yellow was introduced and there was a yellow with a sort of stripe thing. My brother had a red one I really liked it.....

    Cant say I remember F1 or F2 versions sold new here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spearfish View Post
    Ahhh Paul in EN Zed you would be a hell of a hard judge at a bike show...
    Correct colour, original exhaust and original plate are three of the more important features I'm looking for when looking for something collectible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Correct colour, original exhaust and original plate are three of the more important features I'm looking for when looking for something collectible.
    I know Paul will resent being called a resource but having people who know how many rivets the factory would have used is one of the better sides of the site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Correct colour, original exhaust and original plate are three of the more important features I'm looking for when looking for something collectible.
    I can apprecicate what goes into restoring a motorcycle, having done a couple, but these days the features I like are electronic ignition, decent suspension, loud exhaust and a strong motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spearfish View Post
    I know Paul will resent being called a resource but having people who know how many rivets the factory would have used is one of the better sides of the site.
    In all honesty I'm no expert on rivets or Hondas. But I appreciate the lengths some people go to to get an original factory finish (for instance I once chatted to a guy who would wire wheel scuff his Honda metal bits before sending it to be chromed because the originals were not highly polished etc). Knowing just how hard some of these people work to get it right - I get slightly miffed when someone assembles a pile of munt into a semi functional bike, paints it metalflake purple and calls it 'restored'.... Erm - nope.....

    Thats not to say its not a worthy effort btw. My own bikes tend to be semi original and are always modified a bit.

    My favourite things are bikes that evoke an era. A set of ace bars and chambers on an RD350 are not factory but ARE very cool.... If you get my drift...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    In all honesty I'm no expert on rivets or Hondas. But I appreciate the lengths some people go to to get an original factory finish (for instance I once chatted to a guy who would wire wheel scuff his Honda metal bits before sending it to be chromed because the originals were not highly polished etc). Knowing just how hard some of these people work to get it right - I get slightly miffed when someone assembles a pile of munt into a semi functional bike, paints it metalflake purple and calls it 'restored'.... Erm - nope.....

    Thats not to say its not a worthy effort btw. My own bikes tend to be semi original and are always modified a bit.

    My favourite things are bikes that evoke an era. A set of ace bars and chambers on an RD350 are not factory but ARE very cool.... If you get my drift...
    Totally agree with all your comments, particularly that last sentence - period correct mods are cool, as are uprated suspenders (particularly if it's a ridden classic)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    In all honesty I'm no expert on rivets or Hondas. But I appreciate the lengths some people go to to get an original factory finish (for instance I once chatted to a guy who would wire wheel scuff his Honda metal bits before sending it to be chromed because the originals were not highly polished etc). Knowing just how hard some of these people work to get it right - I get slightly miffed when someone assembles a pile of munt into a semi functional bike, paints it metalflake purple and calls it 'restored'.... Erm - nope.....

    Thats not to say its not a worthy effort btw. My own bikes tend to be semi original and are always modified a bit.

    My favourite things are bikes that evoke an era. A set of ace bars and chambers on an RD350 are not factory but ARE very cool.... If you get my drift...
    Yeah but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spearfish View Post
    Yeah but...
    Exactly - and thats the great thing about old motorbikes as a hobby.... Show me an old speedtwin and i think 'chopper' because when i was 17 I could buy one for $200 and 6 weeks later have a cool wee bike. A guy 10 years older would be horrified and want it 'original'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Exactly - and thats the great thing about old motorbikes as a hobby.... Show me an old speedtwin and i think 'chopper' because when i was 17 I could buy one for $200 and 6 weeks later have a cool wee bike. A guy 10 years older would be horrified and want it 'original'....
    Doesn't it get confusing now we are not in the 17 year old bracket and leaning heavily in the direction of the "horrified guy" bracket but with the right bike (or anything else) in front of you your brain goes back to 17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Correct colour, original exhaust and original plate are three of the more important features I'm looking for when looking for something collectible.
    the problem is the exhausts are all made of cheese. Luckily there are NOS sources. With the $ strong, nows the time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    the problem is the exhausts are all made of cheese. Luckily there are NOS sources. With the $ strong, nows the time!
    Got a set of Staintunes on my Ducati....they are 23 years old. The Contis were made of the same stuff as Lancias and Alfas.... Rustium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Got a set of Staintunes on my Ducati....they are 23 years old. The Contis were made of the same stuff as Lancias and Alfas.... Rustium.
    I was more thinking of the ones they made of chrome plated tissue paper and put on Jap stuff in the 70's and 80's: they just rotted out. I replaced the pipes on a bunch of bikes (GSX400, GSX750, GPZ750, CB750's (though that was, ahem, crash damage)

    I once had a CB750 that had a 4-1 on it that you had to remove to change the oil. hilarity.
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    Classic or just old?

    Reminds me of the ad's for a "classic" car. Some people seem to think that if an English / french made car is still reconizable after 40 years, it must be a 'collectible or classic' bargain.

    I had a Hillman Avenger with a bloody great CNG tank filling the boot. God forbid anyone would consider that a 'classic'.

    Young fellow had a lowered, lime green early 80's Isuzu Gemini for sale for $3,000. Told me "It's a classic mate, You wont see many of these still going" I replied, 'I'm not suprised.'

    Any vehicle is only worth what someone will pay for it. Honda Hamilton had a CB400F that had apparently never been registered. Wanted $20,000.
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