Learner licence scooting

**Indiana_Jones** · 2nd August 2011, 08:10

Originally Posted by Oblivion

For gods sake try to avoid some of the Chinese ones. Not being racist or anything but the build quality on some of those machines is absolutely horrible.

+1

-Indy

**DangerMice** · 2nd August 2011, 08:51

Originally Posted by Spearfish

I have to laugh at the AA who think weaving around some cones in a deserted car park at 20kph will suddenly empower a new rider with all the skills they need to avoid contributing to the crash statistics especially someone new to any form of transport let alone two wheeled.
Rider handling is just an integral part of road-craft.

Especially given they think we're all riding around high powered machines dressed in scooter drag... ahem...

move along, nothing to see here

**Grasshopperus** · 2nd August 2011, 08:58

James,

I seriously recommend that you get a suzuki gsxr1000, it's the best scooter you can get and not too pricey.

You won't get any attention from the police and if you do, you just give 'em the finger and then ride off faster than their damn cop cars will allow.

I think this one would be appropriate http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-394961305.htm

No need to thank me

**Spearfish** · 2nd August 2011, 09:04

Originally Posted by DangerMice

Especially given they think we're all riding around high powered machines dressed in scooter drag... ahem...

move along, nothing to see here

Yeah about as much power as a starter motor on some bikes.

In fact there must be a bike out there that still couldn't be classed as a moped even if is was ridden on its starter motor with all the plugs out..

The AA don't think pedal bikes with engines should be included.
It could go back to the days of semi redundant pedals just to dodge the higher rego and licence restrictions.

And this is safer? http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-393837289.htm

**allycatz** · 2nd August 2011, 10:36

Borrow a 50cc and learn to ride it then get ya licence and get a 125cc scooter. 50cc is a waste of time and you will be relegated to the side of the road whether you want to be there or not.

**not2slow** · 2nd August 2011, 11:59

Mate, I rode a scooter for 2.5 years. I had TGB R50X (good looking beast, the scooter not me

). It was fast and there were only a few 50cc scooters that could out run this one. The Daelim 5 was one of them. Not sure if you have a TGB or Daelim dealer down Chch. Otherwise stick with the Yamaha jog, those are proven workhorses and all these names above will do 60km (dependant on how fat you are!). Also check out thescooterreview.com, they have some good reviews of most scooter brands. Also lurk around on the scooter page (as mention in another post). some of the boys that run the scooter review page post on there as well. Go for your 6R as soon as you can so you get a 250 when you have the experince and the $$. Get good riding gear as well!! $300 for a jacket may be a bit, but how much do you value your arms, legs, fingers, toes and dong? ALso you can always get a 70cc up grade kit and expansion chamber for the 50cc and really annoy the neighbours

**Jamesnicholasnz** · 2nd August 2011, 14:52

Originally Posted by not2slow

Mate, I rode a scooter for 2.5 years. I had TGB R50X (good looking beast, the scooter not me

). It was fast and there were only a few 50cc scooters that could out run this one. The Daelim 5 was one of them. Not sure if you have a TGB or Daelim dealer down Chch. Otherwise stick with the Yamaha jog, those are proven workhorses and all these names above will do 60km (dependant on how fat you are!). Also check out thescooterreview.com, they have some good reviews of most scooter brands. Also lurk around on the scooter page (as mention in another post). some of the boys that run the scooter review page post on there as well. Go for your 6R as soon as you can so you get a 250 when you have the experince and the $$. Get good riding gear as well!! $300 for a jacket may be a bit, but how much do you value your
arms, legs, fingers, toes and dong? ALso you can always get a 70cc up grade kit and expansion chamber for the 50cc and really annoy the neighbours

I'll have a look at that website posted. I'm not sure really what to do now. To buy the scooter or not. People are saying not to and people are saying to buy it. So really guys is it a good idea to get the scooter or not. Can anyone reply and tell me it is a good idea.
Cheers James.

**Spearfish** · 2nd August 2011, 15:26

You cant go bigger until your 16 so the 50 is kinda where you are for now. DangerMice has been riding a jog for a few years I've been riding one since 2008 so as long as you don't have to travel down a motorway or areas over 70kph then it will do the job.

Full face helmets fit under the seat with your gloves inside.

The rear wheel locks with the ignition key so insurance Co'S give you a small discount for having an immobiliser.

Remember you need a full face helmet, bike jacket and gloves at a min if you have the money get some pants as well.

Some people you talk to could suggest that if you cant afford bike pants straight away then two pairs of jeans.

Then talk someone into shouting a scooter course for an early birthday present and/or any gear you don't have.

then you can do the charity run next year from bluff to Queenstown.
http://www.southernchallenge.co.nz/

**DangerMice** · 2nd August 2011, 16:10

+1 on everything Spearfish said.

I've been riding my Jog since 2008 as well, 40kms a day, every weekday from west to central auckland and it has never missed a beat. And if you're travelling in rush hour you'll probably be going faster than most of the other traffic anyway if you decide to lane split. (Get some experience first though).

The reason I ride my Jog is because it does exactly what I need, is quick for a scoot, can carry a boot load of stuff and I have fun. (Plus I don't have the increased license, rego and WOF costs of a bigger bike).

Chuck in your $10 of petrol, top up the oil every 1000kms or so and you're away laughing.

**Jamesnicholasnz** · 2nd August 2011, 17:12

Originally Posted by DangerMice

+1 on everything Spearfish said.

I've been riding my Jog since 2008 as well, 40kms a day, every weekday from west to central auckland and it has never missed a beat. And if you're travelling in rush hour you'll probably be going faster than most of the other traffic anyway if you decide to lane split. (Get some experience first though).

The reason I ride my Jog is because it does exactly what I need, is quick for a scoot, can carry a boot load of stuff and I have fun. (Plus I don't have the increased license, rego and WOF costs of a bigger bike).
Chuck in your $10 of petrol, top up the oil every 1000kms or so and you're away laughing.

How many kms can you do on $10 of fuel. Or more if the tank can fit it. And how do you do the two stroke. With the oil. Do you just full up the petrel and that's it until you need oil. About lane splitting are you allowed to do that. I see scooters and motorcycles doing it all the time. Would you please tell me the pros and cons of the jog scooter. Thanks man. James

**DangerMice** · 2nd August 2011, 18:53

Originally Posted by Jamesnicholasnz

How many kms can you do on $10 of fuel. Or more if the tank can fit it. And how do you do the two stroke. With the oil. Do you just full up the petrel and that's it until you need oil. About lane splitting are you allowed to do that. I see scooters and motorcycles doing it all the time. Would you please tell me the pros and cons of the jog scooter. Thanks man. James

It's $10 - $11 to fill the tank at the moment. The tank is approx. 5 litres. If your rollers and drive belt are in good nick, you should get about 160km. As they wear your range reduces slightly.

Oil is easy, there's a separate tank on the Jog (& on most scooters) next to the petrol filler that you fill up with 2T oil. Cost depends on the quality you use. The oil is added to the fuel automatically and you just keep filling it when it tells you, or just keep it topped off, up to you.

I won't rehash the legalities of lane splitting, there are so many threads on here about it, just have a search.

**DangerMice** · 2nd August 2011, 19:05

Originally Posted by allycatz

Borrow a 50cc and learn to ride it then get ya licence and get a 125cc scooter. 50cc is a waste of time and you will be relegated to the side of the road whether you want to be there or not.

Bollocks, any decent stock 2T scoot will do 65kph, plenty to keep up with traffic, and will usually get away from the lights quicker as well. If you're only doing 50kph roads, why pay, what is it now, $420? rego for 125cc, plus WOF, plus license costs when 50cc is $180 rego and that's it. Doesn't make sense in my book.

If you do need to use a motorway etc, then yes I agree with you re a bigger engine.

**not2slow** · 2nd August 2011, 20:01

Dangermice has summed it up well in terms of costs. That's why i got a 50cc (i'm 6foot and weight 90kgs) and i only went up in size due to work moving and needing to use the motorways. Scooter is the way to go

especially when you master lane splitting, save $$, time and get to have a bit of fun getting from A to B.

**DangerMice** · 2nd August 2011, 20:20

I split continuously for about 7km of my 20km commute along great north road (kelston-ish to pt. chev). Elsewhere I don't need to, and I just filter up to the red lights and use bus lanes where available. As you say, saves heaps of time

**Jamesnicholasnz** · 2nd August 2011, 20:23

Originally Posted by not2slow

Dangermice has summed it up well in terms of costs. That's why i got a 50cc (i'm 6foot and weight 90kgs) and i only went up in size due to work moving and needing to use the motorways. Scooter is the way to go

especially when you master lane splitting, save $$, time and get to have a bit of fun getting from A to B.

How did the scooter with your size, speed wise, so it went all well.
I'm 70kgs and 5foot8.