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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
    What's the go with passing lanes? You know, the ones with the massive sign saying "Keft left unless passing". If a car is travelling side by side with another, it is clearly not passing, but also can't move to the left lane without either speeding up or slowing down. Is the sign more just a guideline than a legal requirement?
    its a law...thou shalt travel on the left wherever practica

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Um... Actually it IS law, except on multi lane roads where each lane is clearly marked. Passing lanes are not considered part of multi lane roads, and the Keep left unless passing RULE is applied.
    Ok ... I got it wrong ... again ...

    The RED bordered signs are law ...

    Those not are advisory ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Quite correct ...
    If lanes are marked ... it is LEGAL to overtake on the left OR right ... (for the Dyslexic ... that means EITHER side)
    No it is not, undertaking is illegal unless that car in the right is cearly turning right or both lanes are congested.
    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    However ... it it advised in most official publications, that slower traffic should move to the left to allow faster traffic to pass ... (but WHO reads them ... eh !!!)
    Maximum speeds allowed depends on the speed zone the marked lanes are in .. (funny that)
    If two vehicles in two different lanes ... are travelling side by side ... at the posted speed limit ... they ARE within the law. (like it or not ... usually NOT )
    Its advised in the law too, & the law says two cars side-by-side at the same speed is breaking the law.
    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    "Keep left unless passing" is not law ... just as "share the road" signs are not.
    If both vehicles are at the posted speed limit ... no law is broken.
    If both vehicles are travelling BELOW the speed limit ... The "impeeding traffic flow" occurs ... which IS an infringement ... and BOTH vehicles could be charged ...
    Keep left unless overtaking is law (simplified)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Um... Actually it IS law, except on multi lane roads where each lane is clearly marked. Passing lanes are not considered part of multi lane roads, and the Keep left unless passing RULE is applied.
    not "except on multi-lane roads", on multi-lane roads exceptions can be met to allow use of righthand lane but it's use other than meeting these exceptions is illegal to travel in the righthand lane

    Here is the law as written. I will highlight for people the "if" that allows righthand lane use, not meeting the "if" requirements means not using the righthand lane.
    Quote Originally Posted by Road User Rule 2004
    2.1 Keeping left
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    (1) A driver, when driving, must at all times drive as near as practicable to the left side of the roadway unless this rule otherwise provides.
    (2) If a driver’s speed, when driving, is such as to impede the normal and reasonable flow of traffic, that driver must, as soon as is reasonably practicable, move the vehicle as far as practicable to the left side of the roadway when this is necessary to allow following traffic to pass.
    (3) A driver may drive in the right lane in the direction of travel when driving on a multi-lane road if
    (a) the driver is turning right, or making a U-turn from the centre of the road, and is giving the prescribed signal of that driver’s intention to turn right; or
    (b) the driver is passing; or
    (c) the left lane is unavailable to the driver; or
    (d) the driver is required by any provision of this rule to drive in the right lane; or
    (e) a variable lane control downward-facing arrow sign indicates that the driver must drive in the right lane; or
    (f) the driver is avoiding an obstruction; or
    (g) the traffic in all other lanes is congested; or
    (h) the traffic in every lane is congested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    ...
    Here is the law as written. I will highlight for people the "if" that allows righthand lane use, not meeting the "if" requirements means not using the righthand lane.
    Exactly. There are exceptions to the "Keep left unless Passing" rule on multi lane roads, just as you have pointed out. On passing lanes there are no exceptions, you MUST keep left unless passing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    No it is not, undertaking is illegal unless that car in the right is cearly turning right or both lanes are congested.
    Road User Rule

    2.8 Passing on left
    (1) A driver must not pass or attempt to pass on the left of another vehicle moving in the same direction except in accordance with this clause.
    (2) In any case in which the movement referred to subclause (1) may be made,—
    (a) the 2 vehicles must be in different lanes; or.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Exactly. There are exceptions to the "Keep left unless Passing" rule on multi lane roads, just as you have pointed out. On passing lanes there are no exceptions, you MUST keep left unless passing.
    Logic dictates that the exceptions noted in law must also apply to passing lanes. After all, there are definitely passing lanes with driveways and side roads on the right. I imagine that there will be a land slide from time to time as well. Maybe even a broked down truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Road User Rule

    2.8 Passing on left
    (1) A driver must not pass or attempt to pass on the left of another vehicle moving in the same direction except in accordance with this clause.
    (2) In any case in which the movement referred to subclause (1) may be made,—
    (a) the 2 vehicles must be in different lanes; or.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Oooooooooo......................Scuber Steve wuz rong? Really? Take a foto.
    1st time for everything right???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    1st time for everything right???
    Yeah, sorry dude, couldn't resist .........

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I made a mistake once. Back in 87 I think it was..............
    Since thats so nicely setup...

    ...What joint the
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Since thats so nicely setup...

    ...What joint the
    Nope, married the first Mrs Cat. On version 2 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Nope, married the first Mrs Cat. On version 2 now.
    you guys not get all the stupid buzz words down there??? Your supposed to say "On version 2.0 now "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    you guys not get all the stupid buzz words down there??? Your supposed to say "On version 2.0 now "

    2.0 - like you could have a 1.385 version??


    What a waste of breath, I'll tick the box for "Phrases never to be used" with that one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Hi Y'All

    Here's why so few people get tickets for going too slow.

    I was going north in my neenar at about 4.30 today. Neenar? It's blue and yellow, with red/blue lights on the roof. Nuff said.

    I radared a car travelling south on SH1 out of Waikuku at 70 km/h. He was coming out of the Waikuku 80 kmh area. Behind him were 11 vehicles, the drivers of 3 of them waved frantically for me to do something about the dude holding them all up.

    I whipped around behind the last of the 11, then used the blues n twos to force each of the 11 aside while I went after the car still travelling at 70 kmh, now in a 100 zone.

    After creating mayhem to get to him, he eventually stopped, and I got a big mouthful about how I had driven dangerously to catch and stop him, and that I should go catch some burglars or rapists. Yes, pretty much all the shite that I get most days.

    After he drove off, $150 poorer, I pondered why I bother, given the criticism I get for doing it, added to the criticism I get for not doing it.

    So, should we do it or not?

    Harumph.
    You Sir are our last bastion defence against Fuckwits so do not stop. Unless you are starting to believe the Company mantra "Speed kills".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElCoyote View Post
    You Sir are our last bastion defence against Fuckwits so do not stop. Unless you are starting to believe the Company mantra "Speed kills".
    I'm having a dollar each way, actually. Bad driving kills, but driving badly faster kills even quicker.

    Always amuses me that folk bang on about how the roads are full of bad drivers, then in the next breath tell us they should be allowed to go faster.

    Go figure.


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