
Originally Posted by
Lou Girardin
Stoning adulterers is, by definition, vicious and repressive. Are you also in favour of burning witches? That used to be Christian law, part of our culture.
One interpretation of the Koran says that infidels must face the fires. Infidels are the non-muslims. Ergo, if you're not a muslim, you must die.
As it's the fastest growing religeon, if NZ does become muslim, will we then become subject to shariah law? Will it be acceptable if it's the majority belief?
Then again, is Choudry not subjugating his beliefs to the law of the infidel?
He would be condemned to death for that under shariah law.
I'm sorry, but any religeon that advocates death for so many transgressions is not acceptable in an enlightened society.
Well the Koran does say that infidel must face the fire. Now what that means is not that infidels - meaning non-muslims should be killled and burnt to death... it means that according to the Koran, if you aint a muslim and you die, you will go to Hell. It does NOT in any way say that non-muslims should be killed just because they aint muslims. During the time Medinna (saudi arabia) was ruled by the prophets, there were non-muslims living in that place and they were not killed as infidels... they were given the right to live they life and worship whomever they wanted to.
If NZ does become a muslim country and say that the shariah law is implied, then what that means is you will have to follow the shariah law. it doesnt say you have to change your religion and become a muslim and pray 5 times a day. It doesnt tell you / or your wife to cover their face with a burkha - however, it does tell you to dress 'appropriately' - meaning no mini skirts and stuff like that. Now you might think that is oppression but according to the shariah law, they are just treating women with respect and not to look at them as just a 'sex object'. And if there is shariah law and you break it, well you face the penalty... just like any other country. Say you go and commit a crime today in NZ, you broke the law and according to NZ law, you will be put into a jail for maybe 2 years... well shariah will either cut your hands and stone you to death, depending on your crime...you might say this aint fair but every country has its law and shariah law aint no different. How come some of us complain about shariah law and we dont complain about the US law where there is a death penalty.... isnt that just the same as stoning someone to death..???
Regarding choudrey... well the way i see it, he was just trying to say this: even though he is a muslim and belives in shariah law... he was saying that since NZ aint a muslim country, the shariah law doesnt apply here and that even though he belives in stoning adulteres to death, that aint a NZ LAW practise and so he has to accept that. There is a big difference in believing something and following something. You can belive in whatever you want but it doesnt necessarily mean you have/are able to follow it..
sorry for the Spelling... i was typin in a hurry 
and i totally agree with you about the deaths of 50 Iraqis... while watching it in the news, i was thinking the exact same thing. 50 died in two or three bombs and it was just another 15second clip on the news... no threads in KB forum... no minutes of silence around the world...
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