Collected some revenue today

[scumdog]

I dont dispute that fact. Being in the correct (left) lane can be dangerous too. My argument is that a rapist will still ticket an individual regardless of the circumstances, safe or not. And lets not even go with what they are ticketing people for, if they were to be stricter on the more basic driving skills, keep left unless passing, using an indicator etc, the standard of driving may improve.

Well, it seems some people were born to receive tickets - and other to dispense them

Gee, you and ScubaSteve must be in th efirst catagory - I guess?

[FJRider]

My argument is that a rapist will still ticket an individual regardless of the circumstances, safe or not.

MY argument is ... the "Rapists" you speak of are the least of my worries. It is the perfectly sane intelligent law abiding citizens that pull/drive/walk out/appear on THAT wrong side of the road without looking in the direction THEY are heading

Then .... BOTH of us say ... "where the fuck did he come from" ...

End results are not always good. But good luck with the practice .. when you practice it. And if you manage to kill anybody (other than yourself) ... chances are you wont get jail time. (going by past cases anyway)

Your immediate/original statement of what may happen (re: Rapists) means their Policy/methods of law enforcement has been (is being) heard/felt. (Hence the paranoia) The Senior Rapists will be pleased.



Have a nice day ...

[Scuba_Steve]

Gee, you and ScubaSteve must be in th efirst catagory - I guess?

Haven't had to pay for toilet paper in years now... Just wish they'd send something better then the old public toilet wax paper

[scumdog]

Haven't had to pay for toilet paper in years now... Just wish they'd send something better then the old public toilet wax paper

I guess you paid your dues when younger - and now shifted roles a bit huh??

[rastuscat]

Well those 2 are bullshit from the start I've been done for both without breaking either (at the occasion they were given), also had a pink sticker on a perfectly fine & road legal bike, & had my keys taken for "skids" which never happened, tires were not hot & the car was not capable of it*.
They've also attempted claiming many a problems with my vehicles/driving over my younger years it seems they had an obligation to pull over any young driver & charge them with something regardless if how false it was... Got off a few because of entrapment & other "tricks" the PIGs liked to use
Most of this happened when I was ignorant of the law, I learnt me a bit & they tended to end the harassment early after that, unless they had something concrete like my ongoing lack of Rego (not such an issue in my older years I can afford it now)

Yo Skoober

I've had so many people do shit in front of me then deny it I guess I may have met you before.

Interesting how the view changes from the other side of the fence.

[swbarnett]

There is a spooky correlation between those who stay entirely on their own side of the road and those who don't get tickets for not keeping left.

Am I starting to see a pattern? Don't speed, don't get a speeding ticket. Wear your seatbelt, you won't get a seatbelt ticket. Don't park illegally, you won't get a parking ticket.

And, if you were a black man in '50s US, don't sit in the white section of the bus and you won't get beaten up. Law does mot always equal right or fair.

[Scuba_Steve]

Yo Skoober

I've had so many people do shit in front of me then deny it I guess I may have met you before.

Interesting how the view changes from the other side of the fence.

If you had meet me & I had done what you accuse, I wouldn't deny it. I also wouldn't admit it (thats stupid) but I wouldn't deny it.
But as per my examples I was not guilty of a single one of them (at the time accused). Definitely guilty of a few of them at other times & still am, but they were all bullshit at the times of the mentioned charges.
Norf Island cops aren't honest, trustworthy, friendly or helpful as a general rule

[scumdog]

And, if you were a black man in '50s US, don't sit in the white section of the bus and you won't get beaten up. Law does mot always equal right or fair.

No, but breaking it might prove expensive.

"Do you feel rich punk, well do you?"

(Apology to Dirty Harry Callahan)

[swbarnett]

No, but breaking it might prove expensive.

So you're saying it's OK to enforce an unjust law simply because it's law? Wasn't that used as a defence at Nuremburg (blindly following the orders of the policy makers)?

[Ender EnZed]

I just don't get it! In my 42 years on the road, I've had one $1.50 parking ticket about 30 years ago, and you know what? It was for illegal parking, of all things!!!

I've had one speed camera fine about 20 years ago, or around the time they first came into play, and again, it was for exceeding the speed limit!!! 61km/h in a 50km/h zone. I have also had one cop pull me over for speeding, doing 112km/h in a 100km/h zone!!!

What gives??? Why haven't I been targetted when I've been driving/riding legally????

Didn't you also get a ticket for doing 56km/h on a holiday weekend in recent years? You reckless hooligan.

seems interesting that a skyline with all the driving aids on the planet

*snortle*

Do you mean the turbo? Or the subwoofer? Just which "driving aids" are you imagining the average (or any) Skyline to possess?

[GrayWolf]

Well those 2 are bullshit from the start I've been done for both without breaking either (at the occasion they were given), also had a pink sticker on a perfectly fine & road legal bike, & had my keys taken for "skids" which never happened, tires were not hot & the car was not capable of it*.
They've also attempted claiming many a problems with my vehicles/driving over my younger years it seems they had an obligation to pull over any young driver & charge them with something regardless if how false it was... Got off a few because of entrapment & other "tricks" the PIGs liked to use
Most of this happened when I was ignorant of the law, I learnt me a bit & they tended to end the harassment early after that, unless they had something concrete like my ongoing lack of Rego (not such an issue in my older years I can afford it now)

You were a teen/young driver before the PIG oppression started up in the early 90's. As I've gotten older the harassment from NZ's biggest gang has subsided with no change in my driving to instigate said subsidence.

I'd always keep my mouth shut until the PIG had set the tone for the encounter then I would simply replicate in kind, sure might not have helped things but it certainly didn't hinder them either. Did provide a laugh on occasions, especially when you get a PIG who thinks his position gives him power & superiority

Even at this 'tender' age, you still refer to the Popo as 'PIG's"...... reading your posts, my mind is drawn back to what Police friends I knew in the UK said... "what comes out of your mouth the first time you open it, words used/attitude... decides how much you'll be 'raped' to use the colloquial expression, and with how much fervour they'll find reasons to ticket/prosecute......

Wonder if there was a correlation in your past between this obscure reasoning and YOUR interactions with them??

[scumdog]

So you're saying it's OK to enforce an unjust law simply because it's law? Wasn't that used as a defence an Nuremburg (blindly following the orders of the policy makers)?

Wow, quantum leap dude.

A law YOU decided was 'unjust' = concentration camp torture and slaughter...

[GrayWolf]

Rastus, Scummie and all/any of our fine Revenue Collector's in 'Blue'
I've read all of your posts over this topic and personally think you should all be ashamed. After all, Revenue Collection is a business, is it not? yet you consistently FAIL to collect the possible full amounts. Like many other businesses yours chooses to operate on Public Holiday and Stat' days, yet unlike many other businesses that 'rape' their patrons on these days, you consistently fail to charge the 'obligatory' 15% Public Holiday Surcharge....

Bloody SHAME on YOU!!!

[GrayWolf]

Didn't you also get a ticket for doing 56km/h on a holiday weekend in recent years? You reckless hooligan.



*snortle*

Do you mean the turbo? Or the subwoofer? Just which "driving aids" are you imagining the average (or any) Skyline to possess?

Was probably consulting the ''where to go'txt' instrukshuns from the Doris he's been knobbing

[Banditbandit]

So you're saying it's OK to enforce an unjust law simply because it's law? Wasn't that used as a defence an Nuremburg (blindly following the orders of the policy makers)?

Whoa ... no that does not follow ... neither does the Nuremberg link .. which was not about enforcing the law .. but the "following orders" defense ... as was also William Calley's defense for the My Lai massacre ...

If we accept that the laws are the community agreements for moderating behaviours then yes, the law is the law and needs to be enforced ... no exceptions ... some might think that some laws are unjust, are a joke and unecesasary - that is an argument for the community we live in ...

For law enforcement officers like Scummie - the law is the law and their job is to enforce it - not to argue about it's justice etc .. (courts are there to argue justice in specific cases) cops can engage in the community discussion as private citizens .. from a popo pov ... justice or injustice doesn't come into it - enforcing the community will does ... the law is the law.. no exceptions ...