View Poll Results: What would work for you from the Popos? See below.

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  • Enforcement - nail the 2 wheeled bastards

    7 14.58%
  • Engagement - work with the bikers, not against them,

    41 85.42%
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  1. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parlane View Post
    Is that the Mrs Rastuscat ?
    DOH !! Rumbled........

    Ssssshhhhhhhhh, Mrs Cat is watching..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Can all those that it HAS happened to please post about it on here?
    Seriously? It'd be easier to get a list of those who haven't suffered a random stop / checkpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Miller View Post
    Seriously? It'd be easier to get a list of those who haven't suffered a random stop / checkpoint.
    I'll start.

    Me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I'll start.

    Me.
    And me too!!
    Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    And me too!!
    Are we counting breath test stops? I have had plenty.

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    sitting on the side of the road may not work ( Said "may" because IMHO it wont but , i could be wrong )

    GOING to where the bike ARE , and WITHOUT the enforcement ie EDUCATION, you will receive a much better result.

    Go to the big Rallies AS Motorcycle Police, and offer advice , like how to get off a ticket , or free bike checks , or advanced riding quizzes , with a prize of a beer if you pass ...( dont buy ranfurly or that other crap beer )

    You will get a positive reaction

    Sitting on the side of the road , gathering money for , something that clearly isnt dangerous is Revenue gathering and you reap what you sow

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    11 years and 3 tickets , no accidents at this work place and always over the limit
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yeah, funny thing that. I ride bikes both at work and personally. I've never been stopped while riding my personal bike. Perhaps it coz I don't ride like a dick.

    But if I ever get stopped it'll be someone else's fault. I used to love blaming Helen Clark, and it's just too easy to blame Phil Goff. I'll probably do what everyone else does, blames it on revenue collecting, quotas, corruption, blah, blah, blah.
    Oh dear. You're the one suggesting on here that people be stopped who aren't riding like dicks so that they can be 'engaged' with. Can we blame you then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post
    Go to the big Rallies AS Motorcycle Police, and offer advice , like how to get off a ticket , or free bike checks , or advanced riding quizzes , with a prize of a beer if you pass ...( dont buy ranfurly or that other crap beer )
    WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Finally, someone with something positive to say !!!!!

    Brian, are you married? Wanna be?

    I can work with that. Not the free beer thing, but most of the other stuff could work. We already have attended quite a few things as MC Popos down here, and I'll look at focussing on it.

    I guess tho, that's it one thing being a competent motorcyclist, and another altogether being a public speaker, or an instructor, or a bike mechanic. We are a long way from being MC gurus. Unlike most on here (Tui ad)

    Still, that's the sort of engagement that I was talking about in the OP. The chance to hear what riders think, and discuss ways to avoid getting your name on a TCR (traffic crash report).

    One of the realities of that approach is that I'll get a steady stream of riders bitching about how hard done by they are. I'll be a focal point for all the awful u-turns we've ever done, all the covert stuff we do, that sort of thing. Still, I get enough of that on here.

    I'm also happy enough to discuss how to avoid tickets, although I've posted it on here already heaps. Don't break the rules, you won't get the tickets.

    How to get off a ticket, I can even answer that. Invent a time machine, wind the clock back 15 minutes from when you're talking to the Popo, and don't do whatever the ticket is for.

    Happiness filled, inspired. Harumph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Finally, someone with something positive to say !!!!!

    Brian, are you married? Wanna be?

    I can work with that. Not the free beer thing, but most of the other stuff could work. We already have attended quite a few things as MC Popos down here, and I'll look at focussing on it.

    I guess tho, that's it one thing being a competent motorcyclist, and another altogether being a public speaker, or an instructor, or a bike mechanic. We are a long way from being MC gurus. Unlike most on here (Tui ad)

    Still, that's the sort of engagement that I was talking about in the OP. The chance to hear what riders think, and discuss ways to avoid getting your name on a TCR (traffic crash report).

    One of the realities of that approach is that I'll get a steady stream of riders bitching about how hard done by they are. I'll be a focal point for all the awful u-turns we've ever done, all the covert stuff we do, that sort of thing. Still, I get enough of that on here.

    I'm also happy enough to discuss how to avoid tickets, although I've posted it on here already heaps. Don't break the rules, you won't get the tickets.

    How to get off a ticket, I can even answer that. Invent a time machine, wind the clock back 15 minutes from when you're talking to the Popo, and don't do whatever the ticket is for.

    Happiness filled, inspired. Harumph.
    So this morning I got to building the time machine, alas, I'm having great difficulty sourcing plutonium, some searches on Google turned up no legitimate results (this is some very expensive hand soap). I figured I can replace the need for it with a large enough electronic source, but there is no way I can make a capacitor large enough for the burst it would need. But that got me thinking, I think I could use a lightning rod and a perfectly timed exit strategy.

    So after I got the flux capacitor built and the massive wire hanging off the ol' clock tower in Hornby, I am still at a loss as to how I can legally travel at 141.62 km/h. I did check, and there are no large clock towers near any race tracks.

    I really don't want to risk a ticket for breaking the speed limit to try to undo an old speeding ticket. The irony may kill me.

    So for now, time travel waits (irony/pun(maybe(sub-sub-bracket))!). Until the day when the speed limit is 150km through a town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I'm also happy enough to discuss how to avoid tickets, although I've posted it on here already heaps. Don't break the rules, you won't get the tickets.
    It's not a guaranteed approach though. Perhaps you have never issued a ticket to someone who wasn't breaking the rules but your colleagues have. I've got the tickets and the acquittals to prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I guess tho, that's it one thing being a competent motorcyclist, and another altogether being a public speaker, or an instructor, or a bike mechanic. We are a long way from being MC gurus. Unlike most on here (Tui ad)

    Still, that's the sort of engagement that I was talking about in the OP. The chance to hear what riders think, and discuss ways to avoid getting your name on a TCR (traffic crash report).

    One of the realities of that approach is that I'll get a steady stream of riders bitching about how hard done by they are. I'll be a focal point for all the awful u-turns we've ever done, all the covert stuff we do, that sort of thing.
    And that is half the reason why it will never work. If you want to get alongside motorcyclists and work with them to improve our safety you can't do it as a Popo because, rightly or wrongly, there's too much bad blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Miller View Post
    And that is half the reason why it will never work. If you want to get alongside motorcyclists and work with them to improve our safety you can't do it as a Popo because, rightly or wrongly, there's too much bad blood.
    Speak for yourself, I would welcome some positive interaction from the Police. I have great respect for them, after the awesome way they handled the ACC protest ride! Without their involvement it would've been a huge mess, and it was awesome to have the bike cops along with us for the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parlane View Post
    So after I got the flux capacitor built and the massive wire hanging off the ol' clock tower in Hornby, I am still at a loss as to how I can legally travel at 141.62 km/h. I did check, and there are no large clock towers near any race tracks.
    Unless you have a DeLorean stainless steel, gull wing sports car, a flux capacitor doesn't have the technical capacity to create a vortex.

    Since Back To The Future was made, electronics have changed. Now you'll need an iFlux capacitor, and those cost heaps. Wait 12 months, and like all i-things, there will be three new versions, and the price will drop making your treasured iFlux capacitor an expensive paper weight.

    Good luck with the clock tower. I suspect that the Coffee Culture wi-fi on the ground floor will invert your flux field anyway.

    Donuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Miller View Post
    And that is half the reason why it will never work. If you want to get alongside motorcyclists and work with them to improve our safety you can't do it as a Popo because, rightly or wrongly, there's too much bad blood.
    Just coz your mind closed with a clunk doesn't mean that everyone's has.

    Thing is, we can't change the past, but we can change the future. Or maybe you'll disagree with that too.

    Harumph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parlane View Post
    Are we counting breath test stops? I have had plenty.
    You can't really count breath test stops. Jacko wants to count the number of times you've been stopped on a bike just coz you're on a bike.

    If we started counting every stop, you could hardly blame the Popos for the stops for obviously legitimate purposes i.e. someone driving/riding like a real dick.

    Still, Jacko just likes bitching, so maybe I'm being too harsh.

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