Speeding tickets. Why the angst?

[Road kill]

Wrote a rambling note about speeding tickets on another thread, then decided it was off topic so deleted it. It was the POP radar detector thread.

It caused me to ponder why it's such an emotive issue. Exceed the tolerance applied to the legal limit, get a ticket, isn't that just how the law works? Why so much grief about it?

Sheesh.

Because some of the really good riders are quite good at clocking them up,which they don't like because it costs them lots of money.
In the mean time 'really shit house riders like me have only had one speeding ticket in around 40 years of riding "and it cost Fuck all cause it was only for doing 65kms in a 50km zone "I was doing real good that day",,,,,and anyway,,,it's just not fair is it

[rastuscat]

So what do you need us for if you can crucify yourself?

The night before the crucifixion would be with the Swedish Womens Volleyball Team. Not expecting to have to build a cross any time soon.

[steve_t]

Never enforced it myself, so continuing that policy isn't giving up.

The law hasn't changed, I think, just faded into the mist of random enforcement only. From time to time I'm sure there'll be a rash of tickets for it, but it's a long way from being a big issue.

I thought it was a bit rough pinging boy racers and other car drivers but those 4WDs with the large yellow ones attached to their bull bars are almost always blinding.

Back on topic, I think there's grief when people get tickets, for example, for going 105km/h on a straight, clear road on a public holiday. That's caused grief previously for someone I know

[scumdog]

Back on topic, I think there's grief when people get tickets, for example, for going 105km/h on a straight, clear road on a public holiday. That's caused grief previously for someone I know

Yeah, like when my mate got done for DIC and he only blew 435, shee-it, that's not even 10% over, now THAT'S grief...

[steve_t]

Yeah, like when my mate got done for DIC and he only blew 435, shee-it, that's not even 10% over, now THAT'S grief...

So you think driving at 105km/h on a straight clear road is as dangerous as driving with enough booze in your system to blow 435?

[bogan]

So you think driving at 105km/h on a straight clear road is as dangerous as driving with enough booze in your system to blow 435?

They don't get paid to think, just paid to enforce the arbitrary laws!

[rastuscat]

Back on topic, I think there's grief when people get tickets, for example, for going 105km/h on a straight, clear road on a public holiday. That's caused grief previously for someone I know

I'd have a bit more sympathy if there hadn't been so much media about it before hand.

Like, I point a gun at someone and tell them that if they move I'll shoot. They move, I shoot. Whose fault is that?

Allow me to add that speed isn't my ticket du jour. Just pondering why it is the complaint du jour.

Why don't we bang on about how unfair and money grubbing seatbelt tickets are?

[scumdog]

So you think driving at 105km/h on a straight clear road is as dangerous as driving with enough booze in your system to blow 435?

Can be

But you would have to convince the lawmakers that it's not.

And 105kph does not always reflect the speed the vehicle had been doing prior to that speed being recorded....now there's another cluster of worms...

[DrunkenMistake]

Wrote a rambling note about speeding tickets on another thread, then decided it was off topic so deleted it. It was the POP radar detector thread.

It caused me to ponder why it's such an emotive issue. Exceed the tolerance applied to the legal limit, get a ticket, isn't that just how the law works? Why so much grief about it?

Sheesh.

Im only a young fella ill be honest, but even I can see its clear,
People of all ages, sizes and color in this society can NOT accept responsibility for their own actions, its a real shame.

[spannermad]

As a teenager I had plenty of tickets, and bitched about every one of them, including having to walk for the best part of two years in the first three years that I had my licence. Yes it was the cops fault that I was caught doing 220+ km/h in 70km/h zone,
bloody pricks.
Then I grew up. That`s when you realise that it`s my hand on the throttle, and my choice to twist it, and therefore the consequences are mine.
I now enjoy the ride, seeing the country, not just the strip of road just in front of me.

Old story, IF YOU CAN`T DO THE TIME, DON`T DO THE CRIME .
In other words , harden the F%#K UP and stop crying that YOU did WRONG.

[FJRider]

They don't get paid to think, just paid to enforce the arbitrary laws!

An interesting comment ... considering not that long ago ... there was a thread about a biker ... that might be alive, if he was obeying those arbitrary laws ...

Not to obey them can be a bit of a gamble ... even on a good day ...

[Scuba_Steve]

Wrote a rambling note about speeding tickets on another thread, then decided it was off topic so deleted it. It was the POP radar detector thread.

It caused me to ponder why it's such an emotive issue. Exceed the tolerance applied to the legal limit, get a ticket, isn't that just how the law works? Why so much grief about it?

Sheesh.

Why? because it is a scam! this is 1st & foremost.
Then it takes away from real crime (something that is on the rise).
It creates slow unsafe drivers, having the opposite effect of that which it is touted to do.
In the UK the speed scam has been shown to cost upto 10,000 lives a year (directly & indirectly) given a straight population diff calculation thats 714 in NZ, (but obviously this is not an accurate way to do it a full study like in the UK would have to be preformed).
These are some of the reasons

[rastuscat]

Man, wouldn't it be cool to sit around and discuss this sort of thing over a lemonade or two?

No, I'm not grooming you.

[bogan]

An interesting comment ... considering not that long ago ... there was a thread about a biker ... that might be alive, if he was obeying those arbitrary laws ...

Not to obey them can be a bit of a gamble ... even on a good day ...

But the odds are not fixed to that arbitrary number, the odds change with both speed and conditions, most motorists understand this on some level (though for some it's buried pretty deep). The angst can come because the motorist feels their driving in those conditions was as safe or safer than driving at the limit for other conditions.

[Scuba_Steve]

Why don't we bang on about how unfair and money grubbing seatbelt tickets are?

Yea I'm not a fan of them either, Your gang just doesn't seem to try that as much.

But If I want to take the chance on killing my self why shouldn't I be allowed???
In the van where I don't like to wear them cause I'm fucked anyways in an accident, I have to. Yet in the Landy where the other persons fucked & I would wear one I'm not allowed, it's illegal for me to wear it. Fucking retarded rules we have round here... But back on topic ay