Speeding tickets. Why the angst?

[jellywrestler]

Speedo, mirrors (all 3 of them) etc...

you must ride a gold wing eh?

[oneofsix]

you must ride a gold wing eh?

didn't think even Goldwings had 3 mirrors

[jellywrestler]

Because David Gray went mad with a AK47 clone and killed people with it I can't go into a gun-shop and buy one.

That's cause his Mother asked him 'To just shoot up town and get a loaf of bread' I thought, and he never came home with the bread...

[Scuba_Steve]

you must ride a gold wing eh?

Nah still waiting on you delivering it

[swbarnett]

In case you hadn't noticed:
That's what life is like.

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Nice troll.!

No troll. It might be what it's like but that doesn't mean it has to be.

It's society being too lazy to put in the hard yards and treat every case on it's individual merits.

It's also because people seem to be stupid enough to think that they have a right to a completely safe life at my expence. Even when what I'm doing in no way detracts from their safety.

Taken to it's logical end we won't be allowed to ride because some riders can't ride responsibly. That's just not right!

[swbarnett]

They treat drivers as if they are idiots ... and too many times ... they are proven right. !!!

Please re-read the entire post and keep the two statements in context.

[Jantar]

Very interesting, any chance of a breakdown on the other 91%.

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This raises an interesting point which may go some way to answering RC's initial question. RC claims that only 9% of the tickets he issues are for speeding. SD claims 12%, I'm sure other LEOs on here will have similar numbers. But lets ask motorcyclists what percentage of the tickets they receive are for speeding and I think we'll find its a much higher number. Maybe so high that motorcyclists feel they are being unfairly targeted for this single offence.

I might just start a poll to see if there is a bias.

[Usarka]

As far as seat belts and helmets.... IMO it should be the person's choice. I WOULD ALWAYS wear my lid and my seat belt, but I think the person should decided.

So long as they pay for their own hopitalisation and treatment if they crash that's fine by me, if I have to contribute to it then fuck them, leave them to die on the side of the road

You might find that there are more injury accidents requiring hospitalisation and ACC compo because of seatbelts rather than people just getting killed.

[rastuscat]

This raises an interesting point which may go some way to answering RC's initial question. RC claims that only 9% of the tickets he issues are for speeding..

Nope. The 9% figure is for my entire section of 8 staff plus me.

Just to clarify.

[steve_t]

Nope. The 9% figure is for my entire section of 8 staff plus me.

Just to clarify.

Can we get that breakdown of the other 91% please?

[Oblivion]

I remember when the Police slogan was "The faster you go the bigger the mess"

That statement is true. The faster you go, the more energy you have. Thus when you crash, more energy is exerted on your body.

However, the current police slogan is speeding kills.

This statement is false. Ask anyone. They will most likely agree. The reasoning behind this is that, the "statistics" have correlated that there is causality between speeding and crashes. So they have changed their focus from Discouraging speeding, to playing it as the ultimate villan.

I have no problem with speeding. However, only if it is selective speeding. ie; Right place right time. However, (I will pick on the boyracers here ) Most twats in their perfomance scrap piles, cannot differentiate between right time, and impressing people by going beyond their ability as a driver. All they care about is the adrenaline rush they get while speeding. But the guy who goes 130kmph going along the Foxton straight get punished because its the law.

There are the people who need to be punished. The Police are getting it wrong, and are using their own discretion to punish Mr Joe Public for going 104kmph. The reason that people are dieing on our roads is because of a lack of driver training. Not beauase they sped on a straight stretch of road.

Rectify this, and alot less people will die.

[Ocean1]

Maybe so high that motorcyclists feel they are being unfairly targeted for this single offence.

I might just start a poll to see if there is a bias.

Now that'd be interesting. For me it'd be half a dozen speed related pings, one bogus failure to come to a complete stop and a genuinely richeous cop on a failure to display registration, (unloading trials bike from trailer on roadside).

So yeah, all hard core nitpickery.

[Parlane]

and a genuinely richeous cop on a failure to display registration, (unloading trials bike from trailer on roadside).

WTF!? Please tell me you fought that!

[scumdog]

Can we get that breakdown of the other 91% please?

Can't speak for r.c. but my 'non-speed' ones include:

Bald tyres,
No WOFS, (some get compliance - no revenue gathered)
Non functional head/brake/tail lights (all get compliance - no revenue gathered.)
Not wearing seatbelts
Learner drivers breaching their licenc conditions by carrying passengers.
Failing to stop at stop-signs.
Multi tickets to shit-heads with shit attitude and shit (dangerous) cars (seat not bolted down,no springs, cracked windscreen, no inside door-handles etc etc all on the one car)
Yadda-yadda-yadda

[scumdog]

I remember when the Police slogan was "The faster you go the bigger the mess"

Ha-ha, I use that one: "Well if you hadn't been driving so fast I wouldn't have stopped you and then I wouldn't have discovered you have 125 demerits, no WOF and have that bald tyre - so it's true, -the faster you go the bigger the mess"

Normal response "Eh?"
Rare response: "Yeah. you're right eh"