Speeding tickets. Why the angst?

[pzkpfw]

... Multi tickets to shit-heads with shit attitude and shit (dangerous) cars (seat not bolted down,no springs, cracked windscreen, no inside door-handles etc etc all on the one car) ...

I think I'd be in favour of a little "brutality" at that point.


(But of course, where does the line get drawn?...)

[steve_t]

Can't speak for r.c. but my 'non-speed' ones include:

Bald tyres,
No WOFS, (some get compliance - no revenue gathered)
Non functional head/brake/tail lights (all get compliance - no revenue gathered.)
Not wearing seatbelts
Learner drivers breaching their licenc conditions by carrying passengers.
Failing to stop at stop-signs.
Multi tickets to shit-heads with shit attitude and shit (dangerous) cars (seat not bolted down,no springs, cracked windscreen, no inside door-handles etc etc all on the one car)
Yadda-yadda-yadda

Most of those seem fair enough. A few of them must either come from checkpoints or routine stops. Do you guys do many 'routine stops' just to check for stuff?

If those things actually make up 91% of your tickets, then you guys are doing alright in my book... not that you really care what I think

[Ocean1]

WTF!? Please tell me you fought that!

Would have cost too much time.

I did remember the officer's name, though.

16 years later he applied for a job...

[Mad-V2]

This raises an interesting point which may go some way to answering RC's initial question. RC claims that only 9% of the tickets he issues are for speeding. SD claims 12%, I'm sure other LEOs on here will have similar numbers. But lets ask motorcyclists what percentage of the tickets they receive are for speeding and I think we'll find its a much higher number. Maybe so high that motorcyclists feel they are being unfairly targeted for this single offence.

I might just start a poll to see if there is a bias.

I had a very high fines tally way back when (Very high), but I've been up to date and fines free for more than a few years now.
Mine were probably 20% speeding and the rest were reg/warrant, wrong class of licence, one reckless driving after slipping on diesel, and drink driving (sorry about that one).
The one that really pisses me off now is when I was between 13 and 18 I got alot of wrong class of licence at $400 a pop. Now that price has dropped by half, can I have a refund please?
But these days the only reason I'd get stopped on the bike is at a random check point, or if I was speeding.

Note: I'm not complaining about the tickets, I'm just sharing my experience.

[rastuscat]

I'll delight you all with the 91% breakdown when I get back to work on Sunday. I don't keep the figures at home, I'm busy having a life.

Re faster you go the bigger the mess..............that used to be the message.

Then TPTB realised that most people don't think a crash is going to happen to them, so they don't think their speed is mess related.

So, the message changed to the faster you go the bigger the risk. This addressed the fact that most people won't actually crash, but those who do need to be going slower, and the only way you can guarantee a slower crash is for the whole propulation to slow down.

Subtle change, but a change never the less.

I've always been keen on 'the faster you go the better your chances of being first at the donut sale'. Suggested it a couple of times, never really got off the ground.

I even tried 'the faster you go the closer you are to a small african animal with long toenails', but it appears to be too complex.

Harumph.

[rastuscat]

I had a very high fines tally way back when (Very high), but I've been up to date and fines free for more than a few years now.
Mine were probably 20% speeding and the rest were reg/warrant, wrong class of licence, one reckless driving after slipping on diesel, and drink driving (sorry about that one).
The one that really pisses me off now is when I was between 13 and 18 I got alot of wrong class of licence at $400 a pop. Now that price has dropped by half, can I have a refund please?
But these days the only reason I'd get stopped on the bike is at a random check point, or if I was speeding.

Note: I'm not complaining about the tickets, I'm just sharing my experience.

I'll refund the $300 for each breach of licence conditions ticket you got, but only if you suck up the extra demerit points that are now there. It's gone from 25 to 35, so now it takes 3 such tickets to get a 3 month walk, instead of 4.

Good on ya for not bitching, BTW.

[steve_t]

I even tried 'the faster you go the closer you are to a small african animal with long toenails', but it appears to be too complex.

Harumph.

[Scuba_Steve]

I remember when the Police slogan was "The faster you go the bigger the mess"

That statement is true. The faster you go, the more energy you have. Thus when you crash, more energy is exerted on your body.

However, the current police slogan is speeding kills.

This statement is false. Ask anyone. They will most likely agree. The reasoning behind this is that, the "statistics" have correlated that there is causality between speeding and crashes. So they have changed their focus from Discouraging speeding, to playing it as the ultimate villan.

They stopped using "the faster you go the bigger the mess" because one of those old people with nothing better to do than complain, did just that & as it was blatant false advertising it was upheld & thus they cannot use it. Now if only the would complain about the "speed kills" message too as, as you say that too if false advertising, jet pilots alone prove this... unless they're talking about the drug then they might be right but their ads might be misleading.

[steve_t]

They stopped using "the faster you go the bigger the mess" because one of those old people with nothing better to do than complain, did just that & as it was blatant false advertising it was upheld & thus they cannot use it.

[Owl]

I'm busy having a life.

No you're not, you're on KB!

[rastuscat]

No you're not, you're on KB!

Oooooooooooo......................got me...............

[rastuscat]

NOTICE TO ALL

Those referring to me as RC kindly desist.

If I was truly arsey I'd be dishing out more than 9% of my total as speeding tickets.

Tee hee

[Parlane]

NOTICE TO ALL

Those referring to me as RC kindly desist.

If I was truly arsey I'd be dishing out more than 9% of my total as speeding tickets.

Tee hee

I'm curious.. RC... I have a feeling they are your initials now that you say you don't want people referring to you as RC.

[Kickaha]

Those referring to me as RC kindly desist.

Awwwwwww do you need a hug? or maybe just more donuts

[Mad-V2]

I'll refund the $300 for each breach of licence conditions ticket you got, but only if you suck up the extra demerit points that are now there. It's gone from 25 to 35, so now it takes 3 such tickets to get a 3 month walk, instead of 4.

Good on ya for not bitching, BTW.

Your on! I could get a new bike for that amount.......I just couldn't ride it for another couple of years.

As for bitching, I don't normally bitch when I'm pulled over. I will know what I've done wrong and will pull over as soon as its safe.
Except if the coppa comes at me with his God complex on, shining his almighty powers of the law in my face (actually haven't stuck one of these in a while).
Then I'll be one of those argumentative types you speak of, just to screw up his day a bit. I deal with pricks who hate being held up n a daily basis, and cop abuse for maintaining the roads they're driving on, but it's just a job and I don't let it get to me.
Leave the preaching for the congregation and the job will be done before ya know it.