Speeding tickets. Why the angst?

[Owl]

I sped yesterday, no ticket, no angst

[scumdog]

Yeah, 'cause they'll have a real rational grip on the issue. Almost as good as a traffic officer.

And ALMOST as good as Ocean1

[Kickaha]

So by all means call me thick, but where's the problem?

Maybe because I consider the multiple near misses each day that I see a safety issue not just the ones that cause an accident and can be measured

[Jantar]

I sped yesterday, no ticket, no angst

+1,

But there were 5 cops between Alexandra and Milton. One just north of Roxburgh, one at Millars Flat, one in Lawrence, and two just short of Milton. I never bother counting the ones on SH1 between Milton and Dunedin, as there are always cops on that stretch. In every case the Mk1 Eyeball was faster than the Escort 9500i, so I guess they were using instant on.

Even coming home after dark, and there were still cops cruising and pinging away. This time the Escort 9500i was quicker.

[Ocean1]

And ALMOST as good as Ocean1

Hey, they're not my numbers. But they are hard data.

Maybe because I consider the multiple near misses each day that I see a safety issue not just the ones that cause an accident and can be measured

I suspect you'd benefit from a mild dose of perspective. Check those numbers again and consider that to "improve" them any further you'd likely have to pretty much reduce the speed limits to zero. The point is we've all got a huge investment in our roading infrastructure and our vehicles and it pays us in spades in terms of quality of life. Unless it's use is restricted and it's costs are driven up by safety innitiatives ratcheted up to rediculous levels in repeatedly failed attempts to reduce the "carnage" by another 0.01%.

Get the numbers. Anything else is opinion, and they're a dime a dozen.

[Zedder]

So, if you explain real slow maybe I'll get it...

How many kilometers travelled on NZ roads last year? : http://www.mfe.govt.nz/environmental...led/total-vkt/ Call it 40,000,000,000

How many fatalities? : http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/road-deaths/toll.html 370 last year.

So, we travel 108108108 kilometers per death.

So by all means call me thick, but where's the problem?

It's not about only kilometres per death though.

What about serious injury accidents as well and the tying up of emergency services and hospital staff, the costs to the tax payer with ACC etc etc.

[warewolf]

What about serious injury accidents as well and the tying up of emergency services and hospital staff, the costs to the tax payer with ACC etc etc.

If they were serious about that, then licences would be harder to get and harder to keep. The current system of Nazi-like persecution of "speed" is doing fcukall about it.

[jellywrestler]

MOST speedos are optimistic.

until the Tyre shop fit the wrong size tyres and throw it out, without you knowing...

[Parlane]

until the Tyre shop fit the wrong size tyres and throw it out, without you knowing...

Or you don't tighten the speedo cable enough when you screw it back in to your dash... And it reads 0... "Fuck traffic is going slow today".

[Edbear]

until the Tyre shop fit the wrong size tyres and throw it out, without you knowing...

I tend to go by the GPS as being more accurate. The Kizashi speedo is a full 5km/h optimistic at 100km/h. Our Pulsar was 3km/h out.

[jellywrestler]

I tend to go by the GPS as being more accurate. The Kizashi speedo is a full 5km/h optimistic at 100km/h. Our Pulsar was 3km/h out.

My point being is they've recently removed speedo accuracy from the warrant of fitness testing.
So the Government legislates a speed limit.
The Government legislates to have all vehicles on the road tested but intentionally omits this.
Very few people know that they have innacurate speedos and few have the clues to use a gps either

[Parlane]

My point being is they've recently removed speedo accuracy from the warrant of fitness testing.
So the Government legislates a speed limit.
The Government legislates to have all vehicles on the road tested but intentionally omits this.
Very few people know that they have innacurate speedos and few have the clues to use a gps either

The GPS indicated speed is only accurate on straight roads...

[Edbear]

My point being is they've recently removed speedo accuracy from the warrant of fitness testing.
So the Government legislates a speed limit.
The Government legislates to have all vehicles on the road tested but intentionally omits this.
Very few people know that they have innacurate speedos and few have the clues to use a gps either

Few, it seems even bother to look at their speedos..

When you have a driving populace that has little or no understanding of vehicle dynamics or maintenance, (witness the number of semi-flat and bald tyres driving around!), and who can't negotiate even a straight lane, you're on a hiding to nothing, expecting anyone to know anything about GPS's...

[Jantar]

The GPS indicated speed is only accurate on straight roads...

That depends on the update rate of your GPS and the degree of accuracy you require. I think you'll find that at 100 kmh your GPs will be more accurate than your speedo even on very twisty roads. The downside of GPS is that tells you what your average speed has been over the last 1 second, 2 seconds, or whatever refresh rate you have. Unless you are holding a steady speed it doesn't tell you what your speed is right now.

[FJRider]

Few, it seems even bother to look at their speedos..

When you have a driving populace that has little or no understanding of vehicle dynamics or maintenance, (witness the number of semi-flat and bald tyres driving around!), and who can't negotiate even a straight lane, you're on a hiding to nothing, expecting anyone to know anything about GPS's...

A wof lasts for six months (12 for newer vehicles) ... and most assume for that period ... their vehicle is fit and safe to be on the road ... the little white sticker tells them so.

Tickets can and ARE being issued for not having a vehicle up to WOF standard ... even WITH a current WOF sticker ... those failing the roadside "attitude test" often find this out the expensive way ... Those "passing the test" get a complience notice ...

ANOTHER good reason NOT to rant to the officer ...