Speeding tickets. Why the angst?

[Jantar]

What? You weren't even in labour?

Well, at that time I was. But I'm sure my political affiliation had nothing to do with it.

[ellipsis]

....I got let off with a warning that I should not have ten people in my Mk 2 Zephyr, specially if one is hanging out the window trying to get his rugby boots on and that maybe we should save the drinking til after the game...then when we explained that we were late for the kick off were told to hurry up ...1974 ...things were a little different then...a lot of our vehicles would have been struggling to speed...and a discretionary kick in the arse from a size ten boot was not moaned about too much...better than a night in central...

[BoristheBiter]

It's not that hard -if the rider/driver is speeding and not stopped (Got the big finger shaken at them etc) then almost nobody knows.

If the motorist IS stopped and no ticket issued then only two parties (mostly) know that:
offence detected/discretion used/no ticket issued.

So unless the offending party posts on KB (Pff, like THAT happens much!) to say how he/she 'got let off' due to the cop using discretion nobody really knows eh??

Then you get the other two types.

The one that gets the warning then just brag's about getting away with it, generally the one that thinks it's a scam in the first place and has no real respect for the police, has masses of fines, will never pay them off and doesn't really care anyway.

And the one that never gets let off, always gets the ticket no matter for what and looks at police discretion as a joke, and whose respect for the police is starting to wear thin.
After all discretion is just a form of bending the law which is a lower form of corruption.

[rastuscat]

celebrating 50 pages on this thread. Glad I started it. Lots of healthy discussion and lots of bollocks.

Love you all.

Too many beers.

Rastuscat. (hic)

[FJRider]

celebrating 50 pages on this thread. Glad I started it. Lots of healthy discussion and lots of bollocks.

Love you all.

Too many beers.

Rastuscat. (hic)

Bollocks ... bullshit !!!! ... This is KB. We only deal in (un-verified) FACT ... I know this because ... a mate of my cousin told me ...

[rastuscat]

Bollocks ... bullshit !!!! ... This is KB. We only deal in (un-verified) FACT ... I know this because ... a mate of my cousin told me ...

Sheesh.......how can you shay day.......many more beers to come.....

[Brian d marge]

Sheesh.......how can you shay day.......many more beers to come.....

Bloke down pub , is a reliable source

Stephen

[mstriumph]

Quote Originally Posted by mstriumph
... To expand on that 'accidents' are caused by inattention, a driver's lack of ability to read the road and weather conditions, poor training, poor attitude, lack of sleep, bad temper, badly maintained roads, inadequate signage, etc etc etc and(perhaps) speed .... of those the only one that gets meticulously policed is speed - BECAUSE IT'S THE EASIEST - I rest my case.

So ... in ALL those conditions/factors ... if all concerned SLOWED DOWN .... would not ALL concerned be less likely to get hurt (less) in the case of an "accident" ???

erm NO
Like a lot of politician-speak that sounds sensible but, upon examination, proves ... well ... catchy but simplistic to the point of daft. A bit like applying a sticking plaster to an arterial hemorrhage.

To take your suggestion through to its logical conclusion, we could abolish accidents totally by reducing the speed limit to zero... a bit like saying we could control the population explosion through the mass extermination of storks?

[baffa]

His theory relies on the fact that the masses of the two colliding objects are at least within the same ball park.

Take a piano on wheels and role another one of the same or similar mass into it. The frist piano will move. Repeat the experiment with a piano hit by a ping-pong ball at the same speed and it won't move to any measurable level.

I understand the logic, infact it is reminding me of the fun experiments in physics class, but regardless of the damage done to a motorcycle, at higher collision speeds the rider is going to be thrown from the vehicle, so who cares if his bike is ok if he is flying towards a tree at 80 km/hr

[mstriumph]

ahhhh ... but have the relative fatigue levels, expertise and traffic savvy of the riders of the piano and ping pong ball been taken into consideration? ... what about the wind speed? visibility? time of day?

[swbarnett]

ahhhh ... but have the relative fatigue levels, expertise and traffic savvy of the riders of the piano and ping pong ball been taken into consideration? ... what about the wind speed? visibility? time of day?

Exactly. Far too many variables to justify picking on only one. Especially when that one is, more often than not, not a major contributing factor to an accident.

[scumdog]

Life would have been torture for a lot of you young 'uns 'back in the day', i.e.:

1973 the open-road speed limit DROPPED from 55mph (88kmh) to 50mph (80kmh). (Mainly as a measure to try and reduce fuel consumption - once again NZ was on the bones of its arse with overseas deb, don't ask me why it was 55mph in the first place...)

And stayed like that until 1985 when it shot back up to a whopping 100kmh.

At the time everybody said "Ah, thank God at last a sensible open road speed limit, we can live with that , no need to speed everywhere now".

My, my...



Just sayin'

[Owl]

At the time everybody said "Ah, thank God at last a sensible open road speed limit, we can live with that , no need to speed everywhere now".

I do remember that and the comment "People will still travel at the same speed, only legally now"!

[Scuba_Steve]

However Scummy something you may not realize (riding a Harley ) is car tech has significantly progressed since then.
My 1967 land-rover maxes out at about 80km/h, takes 2 cities to stop & about 5 to turn round
My 1988 Van maxes out at about 180km/h, takes less than 100 meters to stop & turns around in a single lane


Just saying

[Kickaha]

My 1967 land-rover maxes out at about 80km/h, takes 2 cities to stop & about 5 to turn round

We used to be able to wind the work IIA out around to the cold start or choke light? dunno off the clock anyway, generally depending on the schedule there'd be 3 in line about 1 metre off each others bumper or ever nudging it